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From: caw46@netcomuk.co.uk (Woodcock)
Newsgroups: soc.men,alt.consumers.experiences,alt.consumers.uk-discounts.and.bargains,aus.consumers,can.consumers,misc.consumers,uk.people.consumers
Subject: Re: Why straight men don't buy from Disney
Date: 22 Jun 2003 16:39:52 -0700
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scott5467@hotmail.com (Scott Gilbert) wrote in message news:<62711e56.0306211913.23603a4a@posting.google.com>...
> caw46@netcomuk.co.uk (Woodcock) wrote in message news:<7e488f89.0306210725.296ba001@posting.google.com>...
> > scott5467@hotmail.com (Scott Gilbert) wrote in message news:<62711e56.0306202250.26fa5e83@posting.google.com>...
> > > Dave Christian wrote in message news:...
> > > > In article ,
> > > > NotTelling@hotmail.com says...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Dave Christian" wrote in message
> > > > > news:MPG.195afb37c3d427e498985a@news-server.cfl.rr.com...
> > >
> > > [snip]
> > >
> > > > > The ones who defend the corruption of children by cat calling
> > > > > those who disagree
> > > > > with their NAMBLA agenda have nothing to lecture ME about - so
> > > > > shove it buddy!
> > > >
> > > > No, I won't shove it "buddy."
> > > >
> > > > This has nothing to do with NAMBLA and it's got nothing to do
> > > > with corruption of children.
> > > >
> > > > It has EVERYTHING to do with the fact that there are some bigots
> > > > who would prefer that gays and lesbians stay in the closet
> > >
> > > They have not asked gays and lesbians to stay in the closet, they have
> > > simply chosen to exercise their prerogative not to attend an event
> > > which they consider inappropriate for their children. That anyone
> > > considers this to be improper in any way is absurd in the extreme and
> > > a clear cut example of PC intolerance at its very worst.
> > >
> > > > and
> > > > they are cowardly hiding behind the guise of "protecting the
> > > > children" to spout their bigotry.
> > > >
> > > > As for lecturing you, the lesson is over.
> >
> >
> > No-one wrote that the bigots asked anyone to do anything, just that
> > they "would prefer that gays and lesbians stay in the closet", which,
> > judging by some of the comments in the orginal article and the
> > subsequent postings on this list, appears to be true. And no-one
> > ever questioned their prerogative to go to DisneyLand, this much
> > should be obvious, but their dubious statements implying that
> > homosexual activity is "depraved" and that any kind of public
> > homosexual activity, whether exhibitionistic or not, is "not a
> > suitable atmosphere for children". I think it is also reasonable to
> > question what seem to be bigoted reasons for exercising the
> > prerogative in question,
>
> It seems to me that if someone considers exposing their children to
> overtly sexual behaviour such as was discribed in the article to be
> inappropriate, that is hardly cause to accuse that person of bigotry.
> Regardless of whether the behaviour is straight or gay, I would
> hesitate to take children to an event where such behaviour was likely
> to take place.
I completely agree, but my orginal point was that you seemed to deny
that the "bigots" in question want "gays and lesbians to stay in the
closet", which they essentially are doing. This is what this
discussion really boils down to.
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