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From: Joseph Legris
X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en]C-SYMPA (Win95; U)
Subject: Re: Tracker implant for children - Real or Fake?
References: <firstname.lastname@example.org> <email@example.com>
Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 21:27:11 -0400
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 06 Sep 2002 21:20:40 EDT
Organization: Bell Sympatico
Richard Steven Walz wrote:
> In article ,
> Sir Charles W. Shults III wrote:
> >I think that we could avoid a lot of this if the perpetrators of such
> >crimes, when caught, were public executed. I don't like the thought
> >of losing a child to some weirdo, but the fact is too many get away
> >with something or the penalties are too limp-wristed.
> >Chip Shults
> You're delusional to think that it has ANYTHING to do with ANYTHING you can
> possibly understand or control. The people who kill kids are INSANE to the
> point that YOU would have trouble predicting ANYTHING they do without going
> crazy yourself! And killing them is useless, these people are so involved
> in their own internal hallucinations that the fact that they can even speak
> english and say ANYTHING that even SOUNDS like something we can understand
> is a total and complete ACCIDENT!! Other people who are *AS* out of touch as
> these folks are are USUALLY NON-FUNCTIONAL! It's only the fact that this
> system lets crazies run around loose till they do something horrible that
> permits them to do these things. If we tested people in high school for
> insanity and just locked up the ones who expressed insane referential and
> other delusional thinking we'd prevent a lot of this stuff. We actually
> filter people out of the ranks of the insane into society based on whether
> their delusion involves hiding their delusion and appearing functional on
> the surface, when any pshrink can tell they're dangerous YEARS in advance!
> This was true of Cary Stayner, all the pshrinks who saw him said he was
> as crazy as a bed-bug and would kill someday if he hadn't already!!
> But even imagining that you can deter them by killing them in laughable!
> "limpwristed"! Hah! That is itself nothing more than a homophobic delusion
> of sickly inverted "manliness" than smacks of a neurosis on YOUR part,
> which is just ANOTHER mental defect in and of ITSELF!: It makes you out as
> nothing more than one kind of crazy wanting to act out your insanity by
> lashing out against a different variety of crazy in nothing but your very
> OWN crazy way just because THEIR insanity stimulates YOUR form of insanity!
Calm down Steve.
Notwithstanding your personal experience, sex offenders are not
generally prone to hallucinations. They might have uncontrollable and
deviant sex drives but, except for the rare cases of those who derive
pleasure from the infliction of pain, they murder to avoid detection,
which is a rational and predictable act.
"Part 3: FBI Typology (Child Molesters)
The FBI has developed a typology based loosely on Groth's work but
expanded to include seven subgroups
(Lanning, 1986). The classification system is designed for use in
criminal investigations. Elaborating on the
concept of the regressed pedophile, Lanning describes the situational
child molester as an individual who does
not have a defined sexual preference for children. Such individuals are
stereotyped as rather benign persons who
are relatively easy to treat. However, as Lanning points out, this
subgroup may include highly predatory
individuals. Situational offenders include the following types:
Regressed. Immature, socially inept individuals who relate to
children as peers. These individuals may
be experiencing a brief period of low self-esteem and turn to their
own children or other available juveniles.
Morally Indiscriminate. These are antisocial individuals who use
and abuse everything they touch. Their
victims are chosen on the basis of vulnerability and opportunity
and only coincidentally because they are
Sexually indiscriminate. These individuals are referred to in the
psychoanalytic literature as
"polymorphous perverse." They have vaguely defined sexual
preferences and will experiment with almost
any type of sexual behavior.
Inadequate. These individuals are social misfits who may be
developmentally disabled, psychotic,
senile, or organically dysfunctional. They rarely have contact with
others and may see children as
vulnerable objects with which to satisfy their sexual curiosity.
These individuals have been known to
murder their victims. However, any type of molester is capable of
murder in order to avoid detection.
Preferential child molesters correspond to fixated offenders in Groth's
system. These individuals show a strong
sexual preference for children which has characterized their sexual
attraction pattern throughout their lives. The
Seduction. These individuals have exclusive sexual interest in
children, and court and groom them. They
usually are able to identify those children who will not divulge
the sexual behavior.
Introverted. These individuals have a fixated interest in children,
but do not have the social skills to
seduce them. Typically, they molest strangers or very young
children or they may marry women with
children in the age range of their preference.
Sadistic. These individuals' sexual preference for children is
coupled with a need to inflict pain in order to
obtain sexual gratification. These individuals are obviously
dangerous and fortunately, rare."
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