From: Robert Baer
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Subject: Re: OT: Chiao's experiment
Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 07:25:45 GMT
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Kevin Aylward wrote:
> "Robert Baer" wrote in message
> > Terry Pinnell wrote:
> > >
> > > Just when I'm getting a headache trying to follow things like
> > > CircuitMaker's chapter on digital simulation, I come across articles
> > > like this at http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/0208024:]
> > >
> > > General Relativity and Quantum Cosmology, abstract
> > > gr-qc/0208024
> > > From: Chiao
> > > Date (v1): Fri, 9 Aug 2002 06:55:58 GMT (92kb)
> > > Date (revised v2): Mon, 2 Sep 2002 19:57:26 GMT (96kb)
> > >
> > > Conceptual tensions between quantum mechanics and general
> > > Are there experimental consequences, e.g., superconducting
> > > between electromagnetic and gravitational radiation?
> > > Authors: Raymond Y. Chiao
> > > Comments: 52 pages, 4 figures, Wheeler Symposium/Chapter
> > >
> > > [Short extract]
> > > One of the conceptual tensions between quantum mechanics (QM) and
> > > general relativity (GR) arises from the clash between the spatial
> > > nonseparability of entangled states in QM, and the complete spatial
> > > separability of all physical systems in GR, i.e., between the
> > > nonlocality implied by the superposition principle, and the locality
> > > implied by the equivalence principle.
> Ahmmm. They need to get their facts straight. The locality principle has
> nothing to do with the equivalence principle. The locality principle is
> the principle that the speed of light is a fundamental limiting speed.
> The equivalence principle is the equivalence of inertial and
> gravitational mass, i.e. all objects in the same gravitational field
> fall with the same velocity.
> In plain English, the above is referring to the apparent communication
> of signals greater then the speed of light.
> >Experimental consequences of
> > > this conceptual tension will be explored for macroscopically
> > > quantum fluids, such as superconductors, superfluids, and atomic
> > > Bose-Einstein condensates (BECs), subjected to tidal and
> > > Lense-Thirring fields arising from gravitational radiation. A
> > > Meissner-like effect is predicted, in which the Lense-Thirring field
> > > is expelled from the bulk of a quantum fluid.
> > > [etc...]
> I doubt it as you have the basics wrong.
> > > =================================
> > >
> > > Anyone know if it's possible with a couple of 555s?
> > >
> > > Terry Pinnell
> > > Hobbyist, West Sussex, UK
> > Meybbe it is possible, especially if the 555 OFF state closes ones
> > eyes when the Schroedinger box opens to let the cat out.
> The Schroedingers cat dilemma, isn't. It was simple a misapplication of
> QM when QM first came about. A *correct* interpretation of QM does not
> require a cat two be in two states at once.
> Kevin Aylward
> SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
> Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
> Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.
I guess you did not recognize that i made a joke....