From: John Woodgate
Subject: Re: Publishing engineering techniques?
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 19:03:28 +0100
Organization: JMWA Electronics Consultancy
Reply-To: John Woodgate
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 18:34:01 +0000 (UTC)
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I read in sci.electronics.design that Spehro Pefhany
wrote (in ) about 'Publishing engineering techniques?', on Sat, 7
>I think they also request the right to use the article
>in future collections of articles and such like. The latter is a subject
>of great debate and lobbying for professional writers' groups, who feel
>that additional payment should be due if the articles are put on a CD-ROM
>or otherwise published again.
'Second rights' for run-of-the-mill articles go for one tenth of first
rights, AIUI. That's what I would ask for. BUT, I ONLY sell 'rights', I
retain the copyright.
>BUT, I understand that journals, unlike magazines, demand you TURN
>OVER the copyright to them (sample clause below). I'm told it's not that
>much of a practical problem (like they won't sue you if you put a copy in
>with your resume, maybe), but I'm also suspicious of the business sense
>of some of the people doing the telling.
Nevertheless, I will NOT sell the original copyright outright unless an
adequate fee is paid
>BTW, wouldn't 1.0 GBP be the appropriate amount for a quid pro quo?
It would, if we admit that a chaw of tobacco would also be appropriate.
>Papers accepted for presentation will require copyright transfer to
>. The copyright transfer form will be included with the
>confirmation e-mail and must be signed by all authors. If the paper is
>prepared for use by or while performing duties of employment of the
>author's employer, then an authorized representative of the employer must
>sign the document. If all or part of the paper was prepared as part of the
>official duties of a US government employee, an authorized US government
>offical other than the author must certify.
Just count me out. I was offered one of those only a few days ago and
declined with vehemence unless a suitable fee was paid. The result was
that the demands were greatly softened, and I could agree with no
The point is that those of us who earn a significant part of our living
by writing should NOT be required to do that for no financial reward,
just because the writing is supplied to a particular publication. RSW
might (or might not, who knows?) call it a form of slavery.
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only. http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk
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