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Subject: Re: Tracker implant for children - Real or Fake?
References: <firstname.lastname@example.org> <email@example.com> <3D7955EF.E87844F1@xympatico.ca>
Organization: The Armory
X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test69 (20 September 1998)
From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Richard Steven Walz)
Date: 07 Sep 2002 20:48:17 GMT
In article <3D7955EF.E87844F1@xympatico.ca>,
Joseph Legris wrote:
>Richard Steven Walz wrote:
>> In article ,
>> Sir Charles W. Shults III wrote:
>> >I think that we could avoid a lot of this if the perpetrators of such
>> >crimes, when caught, were public executed. I don't like the thought
>> >of losing a child to some weirdo, but the fact is too many get away
>> >with something or the penalties are too limp-wristed.
>> >Chip Shults
>> You're delusional to think that it has ANYTHING to do with ANYTHING you can
>> possibly understand or control. The people who kill kids are INSANE to the
>> point that YOU would have trouble predicting ANYTHING they do without going
>> crazy yourself! And killing them is useless, these people are so involved
>> in their own internal hallucinations that the fact that they can even speak
>> english and say ANYTHING that even SOUNDS like something we can understand
>> is a total and complete ACCIDENT!! Other people who are *AS* out of touch as
>> these folks are are USUALLY NON-FUNCTIONAL! It's only the fact that this
>> system lets crazies run around loose till they do something horrible that
>> permits them to do these things. If we tested people in high school for
>> insanity and just locked up the ones who expressed insane referential and
>> other delusional thinking we'd prevent a lot of this stuff. We actually
>> filter people out of the ranks of the insane into society based on whether
>> their delusion involves hiding their delusion and appearing functional on
>> the surface, when any pshrink can tell they're dangerous YEARS in advance!
>> This was true of Cary Stayner, all the pshrinks who saw him said he was
>> as crazy as a bed-bug and would kill someday if he hadn't already!!
>> But even imagining that you can deter them by killing them in laughable!
>> "limpwristed"! Hah! That is itself nothing more than a homophobic delusion
>> of sickly inverted "manliness" than smacks of a neurosis on YOUR part,
>> which is just ANOTHER mental defect in and of ITSELF!: It makes you out as
>> nothing more than one kind of crazy wanting to act out your insanity by
>> lashing out against a different variety of crazy in nothing but your very
>> OWN crazy way just because THEIR insanity stimulates YOUR form of insanity!
>Calm down Steve.
>Notwithstanding your personal experience,
What in the world does THAT mean here?
>sex offenders are not
>generally prone to hallucinations.
No, not mere molestors, but the VERY few who kill children sure are!
>They might have uncontrollable and
>deviant sex drives but, except for the rare cases of those who derive
>pleasure from the infliction of pain, they murder to avoid detection,
>which is a rational and predictable act.
That's an unsupportable view. In EVERY case of child molestation it would
then be the obvious preference for the child to be killed to elude capture,
and yet, according to child molestation stats given by Kinsey and supported
these days by others reviewing his findings, more than 99.99 percent of
child molesters do NOT kill or physically harm a child in ANY WAY! And
the VAST majority do not even THREATEN a child to prevent them reporting
it! The VAST majority of ALL child "molesters" are the child's SIBLINGS and
PARENTS, not even their stepparent!
>"Part 3: FBI Typology (Child Molesters)
>The FBI has developed a typology based loosely on Groth's work but
>expanded to include seven subgroups
>(Lanning, 1986). The classification system is designed for use in
>criminal investigations. Elaborating on the
>concept of the regressed pedophile, Lanning describes the situational
>child molester as an individual who does
>not have a defined sexual preference for children. Such individuals are
>stereotyped as rather benign persons who
>are relatively easy to treat. However, as Lanning points out, this
>subgroup may include highly predatory
>individuals. Situational offenders include the following types:
> Regressed. Immature, socially inept individuals who relate to
>children as peers. These individuals may
> be experiencing a brief period of low self-esteem and turn to their
>own children or other available juveniles.
Even this sort of claim is an ignorant misplaced neurotic slur. Have you
ever played with your children? Do you "regress" to do it? Are you reduced,
have low-self-esteem or are you humiliated by playing with your children?
This sort of reasoning to condemn people who play with kids is entirely
contrived propaganda, whether it is sexual play or non-sexual play.
> Morally Indiscriminate. These are antisocial individuals who use
>and abuse everything they touch. Their
> victims are chosen on the basis of vulnerability and opportunity
>and only coincidentally because they are
These are psychopathic or sociopathic, whatever THAT means. They are abused
cruel deformed personalities and children are handy as victims. They hurt
people for fun, children are simply weaker and easier to hurt! The damage
they do is mostly physical torture, it's not even that often sexual!
> Sexually indiscriminate. These individuals are referred to in the
>psychoanalytic literature as
> "polymorphous perverse." They have vaguely defined sexual
>preferences and will experiment with almost
> any type of sexual behavior.
This is true of all the people that the FBI is uncomfortable with because
it makes them question their own manhood fantasies. These are people who
are more Liberal than the Fundy Xtian Right and who question societal
rules. Normal healthy humans experiment sexually. Only repressed bigots
> Inadequate. These individuals are social misfits who may be
>developmentally disabled, psychotic,
> senile, or organically dysfunctional. They rarely have contact with
>others and may see children as
> vulnerable objects with which to satisfy their sexual curiosity.
>These individuals have been known to
> murder their victims. However, any type of molester is capable of
>murder in order to avoid detection.
Since the HUGE proportion of "molestors" do NOT murder, harm, or even
threaten, it would seem this contention is highly specious!
>Preferential child molesters correspond to fixated offenders in Groth's
>system. These individuals show a strong
>sexual preference for children which has characterized their sexual
>attraction pattern throughout their lives. The
> Seduction. These individuals have exclusive sexual interest in
>children, and court and groom them. They
> usually are able to identify those children who will not divulge
>the sexual behavior.
In fact they don't even get interested in a child unless the child reveals
that they are interested in sexual experimentation.
> Introverted. These individuals have a fixated interest in children,
>but do not have the social skills to
> seduce them. Typically, they molest strangers or very young
>children or they may marry women with
> children in the age range of their preference.
HAH! That's a majority of Americans, sexual cripples all!
> Sadistic. These individuals' sexual preference for children is
>coupled with a need to inflict pain in order to
> obtain sexual gratification. These individuals are obviously
>dangerous and fortunately, rare."
QUITE rare! And this IS the point here.
These several types of persons who might engage in child molestation
or sexual play with a child as a virtual peer, OR in sexual acts with a
child consensually, OR assault a child for gratification are ALL SO TOTALLY
incredibly different in their process that it is sheerest witchcraft and
junk science to even categorize them together, except that it involves
children in sex somehow!! Even those who are fixated on children are
generally not harmful, as they don't assault and are merely opportunistic
immature personalities who happen to frighten children ONLY because
children are taught that sexuality is something frightening and shocking.
MY pojnt was that:
The urge to harm a type of adult who comprises 90% of all adult sexual
approaches to children when peers or siblings are removed, and who is
so manifestly innocuous in their inept approach, must be seen as itself a
mental defect akin to paranoid homophobia, and it is PANDEMIC!
The only real allegation of "damage" done to children by these harmless
often impotent fondlers is by the child's fear of sexual approach, which
is almost ENTIRELY something we in this society have conditioned into kids
by elaborate sexual avoidance, and quite cruelly, and not something the
harmless bumbling Chester the Molester character truly induces himself!
Wanting to either kill such harmless pitiful creatures or even to ruin
their lives says FAR MORE about the low-grade America moron who favors it,
than it does about molestors or molestation.
Look just at the word molest, it is a word describing an inept virtually
ineffectual act of disturbance in and of itself, and not some great harm!
To molest someone's flowers or possessions barely means to do them harm at
all, more to disarrange them, or to sort through them uninvited, not to
harm them. Why machismo-ridden males in this society think they enhance
their manliness by declaring these poor little people as objects of their
dire vengeance is like a sick teenage bully showing off by killing
puppies!! The cure is FAR worse than any REAL disease that is present!!
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