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From: Mike Poulton
Subject: Re: Tracker implant for children - Real or Fake?
Date: 9 Sep 2002 06:56:27 GMT
Organization: MTP Technologies
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On 08 Sep 2002, Robert Baer said:
> Mike Poulton wrote:
>> On 08 Sep 2002, Robert Baer said:
>> > (1) Absolutely *no* battery needs to be included!
>> > energy can be directly derived from the fluids in the body.
>> That requires that at least one electrode dissociate and go
>> solution. That would put metal ions into the body in high
>> concentrations, and almost certainly cause local tissue damage.
>> Furthermore, the current flow would be noticeable and
>> bothersome. I
>> don't think the FDA or any other health organization would ever
>> such a device.
> ** Metal ions are not needed, and a few microamps max i think would be
> below noticeable threshold where pain receptors exist, and there are
> few *inside* the body.
If you can make a battery that doesn't transfer ions through the
electrolyte, you will be a rich man. It's not a pain issue, it's a
tissue damage issue.
> ** Miles of detection is not necessary, especially for a (semi)
> stealth transmitter. The desigh tradeoff for "stealth" is a minimum
> power to achieve specific minimal goals (1=identification,
> 2=reasonable chance of location in specified area).
Cell towers are not located every 100 feet! Miles of detection is
absolutely necessary. We're trying to find people here. If it cannot
be clearly received by multiple cell towers (for triangulation data) at
any given time, it is worthless.
> ** Sorry, this is *not* stealth in any sense.
> If you want zero power for satellite detection, then use a
> colored, large piece of cloth attached to a hat on the victim.
> 10 feet square area is the published commercial resolution; i leave
> to your imagination as to how much better the actual (military)
> resolution is.
Uh, I don't see how that's a response to my comment. I also don't
understand what you mean by "stealth" any why you're so dedicated to it.
This is an implant used to locate people by communicating with the
existing mobile phone networks. Presumably, triangulation would be used
to determine position. It is NOT a GPS device and has nothing to do
with any satellite systems.
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