From: Chuck Simmons
Organization: You jest.
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Subject: Re: IBM chip fab will use Linux
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Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 18:16:13 GMT
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larry fine wrote:
> I don't know...people like to slam MS nowadays just to look cool.
> Truth is, I've used NT for many years without any problems, and I've
> seen plenty of dumb things from Linux. In fact, at work, I got so frustrated
> with how obfuscated linux is, I switched to Win2000 and ran a server for
> the last year straight without any problems. Meanwhile, our Linux firewall would
> always lock up after the power outage because Yellow pages and home dir
> serving would become deadlocked due to one needing the other to start. We'd
> come in the morning and no one can log in. Eventually, someone had to write
> a script to insert artificial delays and retries.
> Point is, if you use Windows smart and don't program stupid bugs into your
> program that can potentially crash it, it's fine.
> Personally, I'm surprised IBM didn't just write an embedded bare bones OS
> for what they need. All other systems like Linux or MS waste huge amounts
> of memory on system overhead, and slow everything down significantly.
Chip manufacturing is not something you take any chances with. An
operator dropping a tray of wafers can cost millions (and this
happens!). One company I know about retired their VAX systems for
manufacturing about a year ago. They replaced them with Alpha systems
running openVMS to reduce risk of a multimillion dollar catastrophe in
the fabs. Granted that VMS is a rather old OS, it is far and away the
most stable OS I have seen. I was a little surprised IBM did not go for
PowerPC and AIX since AIX is quite a good OS. On the other hand, IBM has
developed the capability to run Linux on mainframes and they have
invested heavily in third party Linux support of internal protocols.
This probably makes Linux a natural for them since it integrates into
the corporate invironment smoothly. With Linux integrated with
mainframes in a natural way, IBM can use one OS on large scale systems
as well as manufacturing station computers. Most chip fabs run 24/7. Up
time is what matters and the whole interconnected system has to work.
... The times have been,
That, when the brains were out,
the man would die. ... Macbeth
Chuck Simmons firstname.lastname@example.org