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From: Max Foo
Subject: Re: American vs foreign electrical parts and installations
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Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 16:47:34 GMT
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With Power strips installed in every outlet... I never have pulled a
plug out directly from the box...so plastic is fine.
On Sun, 15 Sep 2002 15:05:43 GMT, "Nukie Poo" @verizon.net> wrote:
>"John Gilmer" wrote in message
>> The cheap switches very seldom cause ANY problem. Most of the few
>> problems come from the basic design (poke in backwiring) rather than
>> cheapness per se.
>> Cheap outlets are a tradeoff between reliability and cost. In new
>> construction there are quite a few wall outlets. Most outlets are almost
>> never used or have a lamp semi-permanently installed. Thus, there is
>> little justification for an upgrade.
>> Where there is heavy use, the cheap ones fail more often. Then it is up
>> the (home)owner to make his own cost/benefit calculation. If his outlet
>> failed after 5 years of use and a "good" outlet would have failed after 10
>> years of use (but who really knows) he might spring for the extra few
>> The last time I was at HD they were pushing a higher cost outlet that had
>> extra strong holding power of the plug so consumers get a choice.
>> For a homeowner doing a new room and a shoestring budget they money saved
>> using the cheaper outlets can add up.
>I agree. One thing is worth mentioning, though;
>Most residences are now wired using plastic outlet boxes. Often, if one
>installs a specification grade or hospital grade receptacle in such a box,
>the gripping power of the device will overwhelm the holding power of the
>6-32 tapped holes in the plastic box. The device winds up getting pulled out
>with the plug. That doesn't inspire customer confidence in workmanship. I
>have a builder who specs out Lev 5242 spec grade recepts on all his jobs. I
>use 3-1/2" steel gem boxes or 1900's with plaster rings on those jobs for
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