From: email@example.com (Andrew Gabriel)
Subject: Re: American vs foreign electrical parts and installations
Date: 17 Sep 2002 15:27:37 GMT
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Michael J. Schülke writes:
> George Gonzalez wrote:
>> They're a bit marginal if you need more than 10 amps, but I'd guess 95%+ of
>> appliances use less than that. Do we want to burden all devices with the
>> cost of a 15 amp connector?
> First, 10A at 110V is just 1100W -- my vacuum cleaner (rated at 1500W),
> my electric kettle (2200W) and my microwave (1200W) easily exceed that.
> So do the fridge (2800W), the washing machine and the tumble dryer.
> There are plenty of appliances in every household that exceed 1100W .
> Second, connectors should not be specified to be safe on most appliances
> and marginal on a few. They should be specified to be safe on *all*
> appliances. The Schuko connectors we have here in Germany are specified
> for (IIRC) 16A @ 230V = 3680W. (The British plugs, which look even more
> massive, are only specified for 13A, for some reason.)
Schuko outlets were originally spec'ed for 3.5kW (220V).
BS1363 (UK 13A) outlets were originally spec'ed for 3kW (240V).
Now the EU is nominally all 230V, the figures go slightly out,
but as that was a paper change, it makes no difference in practice.
BS1363 plugs are bulkier because they contain a small cartridge
fuse (the supply behind the outlet is designed to provide 30 or 32A,
but that's to much more than one outlet). You are right that the
pins themselves could probably carry 50A continuously without getting
>I would have
> expected US connectors to be specified at at least 25A to compensate for
> the lower voltage. It's somewhat frightening that they aren't.