From: Joseph Legris
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Subject: Re: Registered professional engineer?
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Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 23:09:16 -0400
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 23:03:21 EDT
Organization: Bell Sympatico
Chris Carlen wrote:
> Peter O. Brackett wrote:
> > Aside... as some have noted, *software systems* have become so entrenched in
> > our technology and society today, that in a lot of cases, especially of
> > embedded software, a failure [bug] in a piece of mission critical software
> > [fly by wire on your Chevy?] could endanger lives, and so as a responsible
> > Profession we really need to help our software side to come to grips with
> > this fact and to become more attuned to the production of reliable and safe
> > software. Would you rather have a Registered Professional Software
> > Engineer, if there were such a *beast* taking responsibility for the
> > steering control of the aircraft on which you are flying or one of the
> > MicroShaft Certified Engineers... ooops... my Window just went to the "blue
> > screen of death".
> > The true mark of a "Professional" is that he/she will not knowlingly take
> > responsibility for any Engineering Work that may cause harm if he/she is not
> > qualified to do so.
> What a tragedy. We have Microsoft Windows being used to manage warfare
> on modern US Naval vessels, and who knows where else.
> Are those MS engineers certified professionals?
Of course. They are certified my MS!
To accept responsibility for anything is, well, unprofessional. One
simply identifies the path of greatest gain/least lost and negotiates
from there. P.Eng. status is just another bargaining point.