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From: "Peter O. Brackett"
Subject: Re: Registered professional engineer?
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 06:17:32 -0400
Organization: MindSpring Enterprises
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Joseph et al:
> > Are those MS engineers certified professionals?
> > :-D
> Of course. They are certified my MS!
> To accept responsibility for anything is, well, unprofessional. One
> simply identifies the path of greatest gain/least lost and negotiates
> from there. P.Eng. status is just another bargaining point.
> Best regards,
> Joseph Legris
Heh, heh... I agree that is the way of the world. And... software
professionalism... certainly has a longer way to go.
FWIW... One just has to read details of the responsibility accepted by
software companies [esp. MicroShaft and many of the others who emulate that
fine company] in the associated "EULA" licenses/contracts. A majority of
these software licenses/contracts simply state [in overwhelming amounts of
fine print] that, in consideration for good money accepted, the software
vendor and the *professionals* who created it, in turn accept no
responsibilities, and the software so licensed by the end user is completely
unwaranted, unfit for any use, and must be accepted by the user "as is".
This particular modus operendi has been a small part of the recipe for
creating the world's largest monopoly!
The world works very well in the presence of only a modicum of Professional
Conduct. It's not necessary for everyone to be a Professional or for all
works to be created by Professionals, not by a long shot. Nor should one
try to "sell" Professional Conduct where it is not wanted or needed. One
simply gets what they pay for. "Caveat Emptor" is still the best advice as
the Romans have told us. Good enough is good enough. If you wish to hire a
Professional to do works for you... it will always be more expensive than
The sticky question for Professional Engineers in selling their wares to
clients/employers is really a marketing point not a question of engineering
talent, i.e. it is a question of establishing and maintaining a "branding".
Rolex or Breitling is able to sell "quality" over Timex and Swatch, and
Rolls Royce and Bentley is able to sell "quality" over Chevrolet and Ford,
because of their brand recognition which comes from decades or centuries of
Does it really matter if the Swiss Institute of Chronography or NASA blesses
your watches, or if JD Power blesses your automobiles?
No of course not... one must maintain one's own brand. The true mark of a
Professional is the attention paid to, and efforts applied to the
maintenance of his/her "brand".
The highest calling of Engineering is "marketing" in its' widest sense, not
Indialantic By-the-Sea, FL.
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