From: Joseph Legris
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Subject: Re: American vs foreign electrical parts and installations
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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 09:33:21 -0400
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 09:27:27 EDT
Organization: Bell Sympatico
Bob Wilson wrote:
> In article ,
> MJSchuelke@hotmail.com says...
> >Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> >> Bob Wilson wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Some years ago, our next door neighbor's 1-year-old nearly electrocuted
> >> > herself (and got severe burns in the process) as a result of touching
> >> > UL/CSA approved North American style plugs we use here. If we had an
> >> > intelligently designed plug like the Schuko, this would never have
> >> >
> >> > Bob.
> >> One again, another "AMERICA IS PURE EVIL!" post from Bob Wilson.
> >I don't know what Bob has said in the past, or whether or not you have
> >any other issues with him -- and frankly, I don't care. This isn't about
> >good and evil. This is about a safety hazard and poor design. Having
> >line voltage exposed is hazardous, and a connector that has exposed line
> >voltage whenever it is plugged in or out *and* that can be plugged
> >"halfway in", with the appliance working in the exposed state, is
> >designed badly.
> >There are at least half a dozen different types of plugs in use in (EU)
> >Europe (which, in itself, is not a good thing), and *all* of them avoid
> >that hazard. It's a problem that can easily be solved.
> >Pointing that out is not an attack on the United States.
> Don't worry about his rather absurd claim that because I dare to criticise
> North America's outmoded AC plugs, I am somehow attacking America itself.
> Par for the course. This continent has a large contingent of navel-gazers
> who have never been anywhere else, and have the myopic view that whatever we
> have here, just has to be the best in the world, and are unable to
> comprehend that there are, in fact, areas where North America has been
> passed by by other places who are not afraid to change that which needs
In light of the current young-ladies' fashions, navel gazing is to be
commended. And myopia is great for inspecting SMT (and navels too, come
to think of it).
We North Americans should at least be thankful that it is the plug and
not the outlet that has the prongs. When I was a kid I made a male to
male extension cord that caused my little brother some grief. My poor
Why doesn't somebody invent a safe North American AC plug? Maybe with a
spring loaded shroud that covers the prongs and retracts when the plug
is inserted. I believe I have even seen such a thing. Where is CSA/UL
when you need them?