From: Chuck Simmons
Organization: You jest.
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Subject: Re: Any ideas on measuring radiation in the home ?
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Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2002 17:28:15 GMT
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Mike Poulton wrote:
> On 27 Sep 2002, "News2020" said:
> > < Thanks for the inputs so far and the circuit diagram, etc; I am
> > trying to ignore the attacks and negativity.>
> > I am not really 'worried' about this spark. The question was more
> > general. There is potential for a LOT of 'mischief' in this area of
> > expertise. And you will never have evidence to show. The damage will
> > be imperceptible. Such as tones that match with brain frequencies and
> > drive you nuts, reading brainwaves by thermal imaging, using imaging
> > feedback to pump in controlling brainwaves, small cancers in blood
> > vessels, muscles, skin, brain, blood cells, etc, a little burnt skin
> > layers, some damage to the eyesight, cataracts over a long period,
> > unnoticeable loss of hearing, clots under the skin that eventually get
> > infected and turn into cancers, etc..., use of power lines and home
> > sheet metal fixtures and appliances to inject 'really high-energy'
> > microwaves, etc.
> Whoa... Just when you think the discussion is getting normal again...
I knew this was where this was headed. Right down the garden path into
the outhouse. There is absolutely nothing normal in a discussion that
starts with the question this one started with.
> > And I am not talking product design issues such as
> > the shoe measuring device or monitors that one poster has mentioned.
> > I am talking deliberate, planned, secret people who could do such
> > things. No one would know. No evidence unless you get the right
> > measuring devices.
> You mean measuring devices like an old AM radio, a cellphone, a cordless
> phone, a VCR extender, wireless security camera, wireless LAN card, or
> even just a fluorescent lightbulb? Yeah, without one of those things,
> we'd never detect strong RF fields. Without cameras and film, we'd never
> catch the X-rays, either.
Be careful. Don't confuse people with facts. The OP started out right on
the edge of the irrational. Fight fire with fire.
Back in my radio days, every three months I had to drive from the
transmitter building to a specific farm, follow the bank of an
irrigation ditch for a couple of hundred yards, leap across the ditch
and wade through mud a few hundred feet. I had one of these "right
measuring devices" with me and I was intent upon obtaining a measurement
while standing on a particular spot specified by the FCC so that I could
jot it down in the station logs. Much more hazardous than the radiation
from the transmitter were the barking farm dogs and the cows along my
I just finished a couple of cell phone calls. It is a bit late in the
day to arrange a brain scan so I have decided not to worry.
The OP reminds me a bit of Jack Paar (or was it Johnny Carson?) who
claimed to have removed all of the food and shelves his from
refrigerator so he could climb inside and verify that the light goes out
when the door is closed.
Somewhere the OP missed the fact that a household stepladder is about
1000 times more dangerous than a microwave oven. The biggest danger from
a microwave oven has got to be the possibility of dropping it on your
foot when you shift it from one place to another.
Of course, when the OP lapsed into an Orwellian state, all reason was
gone. He must go into the wilderness far from the cell towers disguised
as trees and become a hermit.
... The times have been,
That, when the brains were out,
the man would die. ... Macbeth
Chuck Simmons firstname.lastname@example.org