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From: "Phil Allison"
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Subject: Re: IEC Mains lead. What fuse??
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Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 10:06:44 +1000
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"John Woodgate" wrote in message
> >> > Anyone even faintly familiar with how people treat appliances
> >> >knows that a user accessable and replaceable fuse is NO safety device
> >> >all.
> >> >
> >> > It is simply an unknown quantity.
> >> >
> >> > If an appliance lead needs protecting for fire risk reasons
> >then>the device that does so should NOT be readily accessable to the
> >> Well, our experience with the ring-main system over 50 years or so is
> >> that it DOES work OK. We don't get the problems you envisage.
> > ** What are you on about JW? Where have I criticised the "ring
> Oh, dear, here we go again! The ring-main system includes as an
> essential feature the provision of fuses in plugs. So when you raise
> objections to fuses in plugs, that is an objection to an essential
> feature of the ring-main system.
** Really. So if I criticise your tie I am criticising you as well?
> Now you might argue that you don't object to fuses in plugs but to their
> being user-accessible.
** No objection to having them - its just poor safety.
But if people had to get an electrician in to
> change a plug fuse, what would the bill look like? 'To fuse GBP 0.10. To
> call-out charge GBP 40. Plus VAT.' Not acceptable, I feel!
** Silly answer. The problem is that fuses of different ratings are
made in the same physical size and so are interchangeable. Also bits of wire
and metal can be used.
> >> Are houseowners allowed access to fuseboxes in Oz? Do they always
> >> or replace a fuse correctly? Or does everyone have MCB boxes?
> > ** A fuse box is not an appliance. You are obfuscating again.
> I don't think so. You object to user-accessible fuses in plugs because
> of the risk of incorrect replacement.
** They are in the same catagory as user accessable appliance
fuses - ie expect the value to be anything.
Nails can be put in fuseboxes just as they can in fused plugs.
** Not the same at all. The fuse box is in a different league. It
ain't no appliance.
. . . . .. .love, Phil
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