From: Mark Fergerson
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Subject: Re: Any ideas on measuring radiation in the home ?
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Date: Mon, 30 Sep 2002 06:42:48 GMT
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> < Thanks for the inputs so far and the circuit diagram,
etc; I am trying to ignore the attacks
> I am not really 'worried' about this spark. The question was more general.
> There is potential for a LOT of 'mischief' in this area of expertise. And
> you will never have evidence to show. The damage will be imperceptible. Such
> as tones that match with brain frequencies and drive you nuts, reading
> brainwaves by thermal imaging, using imaging feedback to pump in controlling
> brainwaves, small cancers in blood vessels, muscles, skin, brain, blood
> cells, etc, a little burnt skin layers, some damage to the eyesight,
> cataracts over a long period, unnoticeable loss of hearing, clots under the
> skin that eventually get infected and turn into cancers, etc..., use of
> power lines and home sheet metal fixtures and appliances to inject 'really
> high-energy' microwaves, etc. And I am not talking product design issues
> such as the shoe measuring device or monitors that one poster has mentioned.
> I am talking deliberate, planned, secret people who could do such things. No
> one would know. No evidence unless you get the right measuring devices. The
> only question is, is it within the limits of the technology today.
Wrong. There are more questions.
First, why bother? What's the intended
effect? Two kinds come to mind with the
rest of your posts in mind;
psychological and physical.
Psychological manipulation is so much
easier to do with non-EM methods. Ever
read _The Hidden Persuaders_? It was
written IIRC in the 1960's and
chronicled such things as subliminal
advertising, which works beautifully,
and which was banned for that very
reason. Similar political methods, such
as jingoism, were not banned because
they work beautifully (think about that
for a minute).
As for "driving you nuts", who needs
brainwave entrainment/manipulation by
any means when TV ads are so easy to
make and place, and can manipulate
entire behaviors rather than targeting
specific brainwave features which have
little or nothing to do with behaviors
or sanity? Then there's the commercial
music industry. Do you listen to Rap
music? Do you want to denigrate women
and kill cops?
Physical effects; you go on about
"imperceptible damage". Why bother with
Your body can handle much more severe
damage than you describe all day long,
and in fact does. You (and everyone
else) has cancer right now, and will for
as long as you live. There're _small_
clumps of cancerous cells in _all_ our
tissues that the body identifies and
destroys on an ongoing basis. This is
not news. Do you work out until you
"feel the burn"? The "burn" is partly
damage to muscle structure, which
results in your body adding muscle and
connective tissue to handle the load.
Power lifting causes some bone damage,
which results in the body making the
bones stronger to handle the load.
Eyesight; do you _ever_ go outdoors or
even allow unfiltered reflected sunlight
to enter your eyes? That's the leading
cause of cataracts.
Hearing; as you age, your hearing
degrades. Well known.
Skin cancers do not start as "infected
blood clots". If you have a problem with
petechiae, it ain't caused by Men In
Black screwing with you.
High energy microwaves _cannot_ be
beamed undetectably into your home in
the ways you describe. If it were tried,
there'd be severe, traceable, leakage.
There'd be very noticeable interference
and not just in _your_ home, if it were
coming in from outside. Your neighbors
would have trouble from the reflections,
and their satellite system repair guy
(frinst) would find it and raise merry
> ... If the
> answer is yes, the devil is not very far. This kind of stuff has been around
> for quite some time. It is only a matter of further refinement and
> miniaturization and deployment, target/victim selection, etc.
Finally, we cut to the crash. What the
hell makes _you_ a worthwhile "victim"
of the sort of harassment you describe?
Who would bother? If you'd pissed some
"Secret Government Agency" off, you'd
just get a visit from a couple of
Extremely Polite Men with badges who'd
tell you gently but firmly Not To Do
Thus-and-Such Under Penalty of Law. If
you persisted, you'd just be jailed or
worst-case "disappeared" one day.
Do you really believe there's some
Secret Government Agency, maybe a
"renegade" group, running an operation
designed to look for new, nasty,
"non-lethal" electronic warfare toys? Do
you not realize that _all_ the
"technologies" you describe are well
known in lab rat testing on real rats?
There's no _need_ to test on humans.
Damage thresholds are well known in
humans as well. What do you think OSHA
standards are for? How do you think they
Note that you and many others have
been claiming for decades that Secret
Government Agencies do the sort of thing
you describe. Why are you still at
liberty to complain? Why haven't they
shut you up by now? Why are you being
"allowed" to create and maintain this
thread? Face it; because it isn't
Look, I've caught enough crap here
over psychological advice, but please
look up "Paranoid Schizophrenia" and
seriously consider yourself as a
Mark L. Fergerson