From: Chris Carlen
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Subject: Re: OT: Anyone seen these viruses?
Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 17:58:45 GMT
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Terry Pinnell wrote:
> I got around to doing a scan with Norton AntiVirus today and found a
> total of 20 files 'infected'. Some were duplicates (backups, etc) so
> they boiled down to these 7 files infected by what appear to be 3
> viruses of similar origin. Anything known about them please?
> File Virus name
> -------------------- ------------------
> decrypt-password.exe W32.Frethem.L@mm
> href.exe W32.Klez.H@mm
> Box W32.Bugbear@mm
> ie4.bat W32.Klez.H@mm
> solarplus3.doc.exe W32.Bugbear@mm
> virusreport.html.exe W32.Bugbear@mm
> ZIGZAG.exe W32.Klez.H@mm
> Terry, West Sussex, UK
How can anybody possibly tolerate living with this kind of absurdity?
I have never seen a virus or any other form of externally instigated
damage, potential or otherwise, affect my machines. Not once in 8 years
of daily internet usage AND about 99% of the software on my machines is
freely available software, much of it downloaded from the internet.
The thought of *paying* for software to scan for viruses that never
should have made it past square one in the first place... You gotta be
kiddin' me. And to have paid for the OS that allows such stupidity is
just as absurd.
If anything, Windows should be the free OS, and Linux the paid $$$ for
OS, for what they're worth.
Do you realize, have you ever sat in a quiet room with no one around and
nothing to stimulate you, and contemplated how you've been conditioned
into thinking all this is normal, and that it is perfectly reasonable to
have to pay for it, and there is no other possible way that things can
be? (Kind of like why people believe in capitalism.)
If you could look at yourself objectively, like an alien who had just
landed on this planet and encountered his first human, and sees poor
Terry there sqandering his hard earned cash on faulty software, then
squandering even more cash on software to correct the problems in the
software (insert infinite series here)...
If you were that alien, what would you think?
I went to Circuit City yesterday to buy a digital recorder for my wife.
When I saw the rows of computers all lined up, all running Windows XP,
with no other choices anywhere to be seen, I felt sick.
Then I encountered the "software wall". $199 for a boxed version of XP,
$99 for upgrade (and I think the OEM costs $99 too, which you cannot
legally install on a different machine than the one you bought it with,
even if that machine croaks). $469 for Office, $199 for upgrade.
If I wanted to build a machine from scratch right now, with Microsoft's
Office software, and their virus ridden OS, I would have to shell out
$568. Just for the two core pieces of software.
That's five hundred sixty eight dollars, not including anti-virus
software, oh I guess we have to add another $49. Now we're up to $617.
Wouldn't you rather have a nice big flat panel, instead of that crappy
CRT that you'll have to settle for since you gave all your money to
Microsoft and Norton, only to have to continually re-install Windows
every time something breaks for the rest of the life of the machine.
Whoever does such a thing is not firing on all cylinders, is one can
short of a sixpack, has toys in the attic, and has truly gone fishin'.
Because I *didn't* do just that, is why I have a nice 19" 1280x1024 flat
panel on my desk! I couldn't have afforded it had I gotten a Windows
It seems as time progresses, I become increasingly disgusted with
consumer electronics in general. To me almost all of it is used for
promulgating and represents a culture that relishes in passive
entertainment, mindlessly wasting one's precious life doing nothing but
playing like a child, absorbing sensual stimulation. On the contrary
with the abiding paradigm of the modern age, to me creative effort seems
the only thing worth doing anymore. The only gadgets I truly seem to
enjoy are tools (I use a computer almost entirely as a tool, not a toy),
and the things I create myself with those tools.
I often joke with my wife, that if/when we have a kid, any electronic
thing he/she wants, she has to build it herself. My kid isn't going to
be running around with pagers and cellphones and video games, that's for
sure, unless she at least pays for them herself, which will make most of
it out of reach until at least 15 or so.
Anyway, just venting random sentiments for the fun of it.
Have a good day!
Christopher R. Carlen
Suse 7.3 Linux 2.4.10