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Subject: Re: Any ideas on measuring radiation in the home ?
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Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 02:34:06 GMT
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Here is a relevant posting from alt.engineering.electrical.
From: "News2020" Newsgroups: alt.engineering.electrical
Subject: Re: Is 2.4Ghz Harmful ?
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 02:28:27 GMT
Thanks for the examples of radiation burns. There seem to be too many people
simply denying any bad effects. < just like the professor you mention >
To me heating of the body is just as bad as anything can be. If the cells
are boiled, you won't have a body left to speak of ! Short of that, it can
damage skin layers, nerve cells, or any extent depending upon your exposure.
If the damage is internal (internal hemorrhaging, etc), then you may not
even notice it ! It will just sit there as dead tissue and become cancerous
or infect and damage vital organs and eventually kill you.
As to the size of a fly versus the wavelength - that is another kind of
garbage that lots of people are spreading around. The microwaves heat at
molecular level. Anything that contains water will be heated. Therefore, if
you keep the fly inside a microwave oven long enough it will be completely
fried. I have seen it happen to tiny ants. If you put something dry or
metallic inside, then since there is nothing that can absorb the radiation,
the energy generated inside will cause sparking and a fireball inside the
oven. I saw a posting by someone who said that his daughter (child) put the
oven on for 99.99 minutes and the whole oven melted with the heat.
"Vlad" wrote in message
> On Mon, 30 Sep 2002 02:59:27 GMT, "News2020" wrote:
> >Thanks for the info.
> >You say that the birds were cooked and you were not.
> >You must have worked in a safe setting (far enough and shielded enough).
> I wasn't landed on the antennae.
> I had a few radio frequency burns, mostly caused by pre-ajusting
> active coils with an insulated screw driver.
> Very painful burns.
> >Do you recall how much of the energy you were exposed to ?
> At night I use to carry a unconnected fluorescent tube to illuminate
> my way to the towers.
> A 2 feet diameter reel of cable with both ends connected to ground
> would start smoking with in 30 minutes.
> >I would say getting cooked fully or even a small minute portion of the
> >(like your ring) would be a serious matter. Keep neglecting that cooking
> >effect and it will turn into a cancer on its own !
> There is a university physics professor in Montreal that claims that
> radiation doesn't damage humans. It's the heat caused by the energy
> conversion that causes the damage.
> We know that a fruit fly inside a microwave oven doesn't dye.because
> of it's small size relative to wavelength
> >Why are people so concerned about statistics when the evidence of health
> >damage if over-exposed is right there ! Let me repeat, I am not talking
> >about use within FCC regulated limits. I am talking about deliberate and
> >possibly secret mis-use at dangerous power levels.--- REPEAT THAT
> >DELIBERATE MIS-USE TO CAUSE HARM ----
> >"Vlad" wrote in message
> >> Apparently low frequencies (sound) are good for the plants.
> >> Broadcast (medium wave frequencies) if anything, were not bad for me
> >> I worked around 100 KW transmitters for about 30 years and had to
> >> remove my wedding ring because my finger would get to hot.
> >> I also work around FM, UHF and short wave transmitters, operating
> >> simultaneously at more that 1 MW (yes 10 times the maximum power
> >> allowed for, in the US for broadcast transmitters )
> >> Does all that power kill ? Yes, it did, many birds that landed on the
> >> antennae were cooked and fell on the ground.
> >> I recently visited the site and asked if the number of people with
> >> cancer was significance. The answer was.. none, among more 200
> >> people.
> >> I am 73 and one thing I am certain... ... it didn't do much to improve
> >> my written english .
> >> Vlad
> >> On Sun, 29 Sep 2002 14:51:33 GMT, "andy" wrote:
> >> >http://www.mcw.edu/gcrc/cop.html
> >> >
> >> >info on medical risk and EM
> >> >
> >> >Andy
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