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From: firstname.lastname@example.org (milne_v)
Subject: Re: Any ideas on measuring radiation in the home ?
Date: 7 Oct 2002 02:21:50 -0700
NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Oct 2002 09:21:51 GMT
"News2020" wrote in message news:...
> Thanks for the details.
> [ Here are more events from my area - don't know if they relate -
> I heard a soda can explode in front of my home (on the sidewalk) a few weeks
> ago. By the time I turned around the boy (I believe) on skateboard had
> disappeared. I was intrigued because the sound was explosive, unlike a
> normal sound. I went to examine the area and found a completely crushed soda
> can. It did not seem to be caused by mechanical crushing - the explosive
> sound did not match and the can was just perfectly crushed flat top to
> bottom (?).
> Two days ago, I saw a white teenager with 'Misfit' written on his black
> t-shirt back rolling past on a skateboard with a gizmo in his hand (looked
> like a cross between a large PDA and a radar detector).
The kids around here carry gismos that look like a cross between a
military style 45 caliber handgun with a 10 shot clip and a military
style 45 caliber handgun with a 10 shot clip. They make a explosive
sound as well, sounds kind of like a car back firing and the other
kids and people who get hit usually look like they're laying on the
ground, sleeping. Handguns are illegal here unless you're under 21
years of age, wear baggy clothes, are a member of the heritage front
and a have a shaved head. Many of these kids have been talked into
believing that they're actually doing vigilante community police work.
> < It would be wise to keep informed about what all deadly technologies are
> being circulated in the underground networks >
> "milne_v" wrote in message
> > Radiated E-Field in volts/meter (or near field) is a verifiable and
> > measurable quantity. Why do linemwn wear those suits when they're
> > working near 400kv transmission lines? There are also endless
> > guidelines for E-Field exposure limits both in residential, indistrial
> > and commercial environments posted by hydro companies for decades now.
> > What are the guidelines for? You get close enough to a large E-Field
> > and you'll get more than just thermal effects. Microwaves are also a
> > large source of directed E-Field which is from time to time envisioned
> > as a source for wireless power transmission, again more than thermal
> > effects. The power receiving apparatus is often called a rectenna.
> > Try holding a pop can up in front of a powerfull radar horn while the
> > radar is operating. Use a long stick for the can. Must be something
> > blowing that can apart. High power broad band micowave sources using
> > sophisticated high power spark discharge devices such as marx
> > generators integrated into a tuned transmission line are being tested
> > for possible weaponization. Check out some of the US navel test ranges
> > or use a search engine for the term "transient electromagnetic
> > device". A number of home brew TED's are also on the net as well as
> > coin and can crushers. A similar technique is used in medicine to
> > produce powerfull, focused and directed acoustic shock waves, see
> > "lithotripter". All have one thing in common, they use a very
> > powerfull and high speed spark discharge. The first experiments in the
> > production of milli-meter wave radiation also used a spark discharge
> > system more than a hundred years ago.
> > Mil
> > "News2020" wrote in message
> > > I have to ask you and other determined nay-sayers this question.
> > >
> > > Do you have a vested interest in one outcome vs. another ?
> > >
> > > ie. are you already compromised in this debate by being 'dependent' in
> > > way ?
> > >
> > > Another way to put it is, do you have an axe to grind ? people
> > > who argue vehemently are somehow already compromised in their job,
> > > commitments, etc. and do not state it as part of the debate. >
> > >
> > > No claim is made, only a hypothesis is projected based upon observed
> > > phenomena and available literature.
> > >
> > > To claim safety so vehemently, you have to have counter-proof by testing
> > > each and every situation of pattern, spectrum, power, etc. You have no
> > > thing. Therefore, you do not even have a fraction of the basis needed
> for a
> > > vehement denial or ridiculing others.
> > >
> > >
> > > "John Woodgate" wrote in message
> > > news:HoOUcUCzkKn9EwWQ@jmwa.demon.co.uk...
> > > > I read in sci.electronics.design that John Michael Williams
> > > > wrote (in
> > > > ogle.com>) about 'Any ideas on measuring radiation in the home ?', on
> > > > Thu, 3 Oct 2002:
> > > > >There are plenty of experiments, performed by EPA
> > > > >and others, that show biological harm from RF well
> > > > >below the thermal safety levels.
> > > >
> > > > Please cite specific references to peer-reviewed papers (not by
> > > > Schoen!). Whatever you opinion of the FCC is, please be aware that
> > > > is a world outside USA and there is research going on all over it in
> > > > attempt to allay the fears excited by demagogues over hypothetical
> > > > effects of (shudder) 'radiation!!!'
> > > >
> > > > Every report of 'no effect found' is greeted by cries of 'cover up' or
> > > > 'incompetence'. Naturally; it's good for business to keep the
> > > > alive. The shameful fact is that if all these people who are trying to
> > > > find some effect of r.f. radiation were engaged on something likely to
> > > > produce a realistic result, people at large would benefit.
> > > > --
> > > > Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
> > > > Interested in professional sound reinforcement and distribution? Then
> > > > http://www.isce.org.uk
> > > > PLEASE do NOT copy news posts to me by E-MAIL!
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