Reply-To: "Kevin Aylward"
From: "Kevin Aylward"
Subject: Re: Problems with Electronics Workbench
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Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 18:56:13 +0100
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"Roger Johansson" wrote in message
> "Kevin Aylward" wrote:
> >The demo is much bigger then you might think. You can only have 30
> >components on a top level schematic. However, you are allowed one
> >of schematic hierarchy, in which, in the demo mode, you can have 20
> >components. You can therefore have 30*20=600 components.
> So this is the "save-limitation" you talk about on your site?
Yes. However, the actual XSpice engine dose not have any limitations at
all. You can actually feed it a text netlist and get out the text file
> >> You might find more success by giving away the prog and maybe even
> >> make it an open source project, so others could help develop it and
> >> maintain it after you have gone on to other things.
> >I don't think that I would want to embarrass myself by having anyone
> >look at the code:-)
> Aha, that is why programmers keep the source code a secret :-)
> I have been irritated at some programmers who do not organize their
> user community in an efficient way. Or they don't even have one.
> Like the RemoteKeys programmer who has very bad docs, an unstructured
> mixture of german and english docs, no mailing list, no advanced users
> who help beginners with the program, and help the programmer develop
> the program. This system wide macro program is also very buggy, and he
> does not realize that he needs help. www.freewarehits.de
> A rather good example, on the other hand, is the Proxomitron
> programmer, Scott Lemon, who has a lot of help from his users and is
> present in the mailing list very often.
> (Which is not necessary. The advanced users can be a link to the
> programmer, reporting interesting things to him and taking care of the
> user group for him.)
> He seems surprised at all the help he has gotten lately when a group
> of "webdesigners" launced an attack on his download sites.
> Proxomitron is the best web filter program and the "web designers" got
> very irritated as the prox group develop filter for the web crap
> faster than they can develop new web spam methods. www.proxomitron.org
> A good program needs a family, a community which takes care of the
> program and develops it further, even if the original author is
> occupied with other things, or if he dies. As long as the programmer
> wants to take care of everything all alone the program develops at a
> snails speed.
> Unfortunately most programmers are less talented in such strategic
> overall decisions than they are in programming.
I would agree with that, however, I'm and analogue design engineer:-)
> They are often a-social loners who have buried themselves in
> programming rather than realizing that programs need cooperation
> between a lot of people. A hundred eyes see more than two.
Yeah, but I want to keep all the readies for my self....
> Putting a password on the demo, and requiring them to leave their
> email address puts off a lot of people even before downloading the
I agree with this. This is exactly why I don't do this with SuperSpice.
You just go to the download page and save it.
Another one that I find *really* annoying, is when they don't publish
the prices on the web site. They make you email them. I find that this
is a sure sign that something is amiss.
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.