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Reply-To: "Kevin Aylward"
From: "Kevin Aylward"
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Subject: Re: Problems with Electronics Workbench - timestep errors
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"Ban" wrote in message
> "Kevin Aylward" schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> > To understand electronics *at all* you *must* learn what these terms
> > mean. These particular terms are *so* basic, that if you don't want
> > learn them, you should give up electronics. I mean it. Its that
> > Why? see below.
> > Look, I can give ABC instructions for you to build an oscillator,
> > however, building it would mean nothing. It would not show that you
> > understood *anything* at all about electronics.
> > 1 If you want to do a frequency response of a circuit, you *must*
> > *know/learn/understand* that you need to generate an *AC* signal and
> > a frequency response plot of AC signal output verses frequency. You
> > to know how to set-up generators to do this. For example, what if
> > want top look at power supply rejection as well etc...You need to
> > what an AC response actually means.
> > 2 If you want to look at a signal in the time domain, you *must*
> > *understand* that you apply , for example, a Sine wave, square wave,
> > triangle wave and specify it by parameters related to what it looks
> > in time. You need to know what an Transient response actually means.
> > Sure, you can connect up signal generators and scopes and see all
> > little bitty pretty pictures, if that makes you happy, but you wont
> > doing electronics.
> > Kevin Aylward
> Kevin, I have been using PSpice since 1985. Remember the 5.25" floppy
> the laser hole as a copy protection? We used a hot needle on a
> have the same effect, as there were no student or trial versions
> Those times there was no user interface or capture yet, so I know very
> to operate this program script driven. The graphs were just ASCII with
Indeed. I have (had) bought PSpice 3 times and also started on the dos
pspice, prior to its integrated text editor. Ahmm... I certainly would
not admit to having a broken copy of dos pspice, in the event that I
ever did have such a copy:-)
> But when I first tested your Superspice, I couldn't operate it. OK, it
> free beta version without the connection dots, bugs, the graph window
> ugly and despite all the features you were advertising I felt as much
> loss as the Lost Angel now.
It has been *much* improved over the last two years. See the latest
Graph windows were certainly not automated enough. Now its a no brainer.
> What was annoying me was the at least weekly updates, on a dial-up 1/2
> hour at night. Each time the bitmap with that guitarplayer K.Aylward
> The missing help files...
But the alternative from other vendors is waiting months and months to
get needed bug fixes. If its a main one that gets reported, I try and
post a fix within a day. Help files are much improved.
Ok, I still update *quite* a lot. Even yesterday I added a neat new
feature. You can now use the docked file browser to place circuit
sections just as you would a single component.
> Now it will be better hopefully, the "phantastic filters" was a really
> step into this direction, where a proper schematic ready for
> Put even simpler models like this for the beginner, an non/inverting
> stage single/dual supply ac/dc operation for example; and have the
> simulation parameters setup to the appropriate values.
I could make some more generator symbols with single set-ups in them. I
don't set-up the DC/AC source with a default AC value because this would
default inject signals into the power lines as well.
> This should give the beginner an immediate positive result, and the
> motivation is the most important parameter learning the GUI.
> Hope this helps explain to you what newcomers might encounter...
I suppose though that I am not really targeting newbies in
*electronics*, but rather the newbies and experienced users in *spice*
itself. SuperSpice is *not* designed as a *teaching* tool for
electronics. Its designed for someone who already really knows the
*basics* of *electronics*, but may or may not be that familiar with
simulation. If you understand the basics of electronics then SS should
be simple to use.
SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode
Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture,
Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design.
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