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From: firstname.lastname@example.org (condensator)
Subject: Re: Pal to jpeg - graber and converter?
Date: 18 Oct 2002 07:29:09 -0700
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NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Oct 2002 14:29:09 GMT
Hi, Simon. Thanks by your help. Iīll try to interface both more or
less like you (with a bit of luck).
Maybe the the signals LLC and LLC2 doesnīt recomended for new
designs because new compresor or encoder doesnīt need this signals. I
think. However the zoran isnīt new, no problem may in this way.
About the documentation of SAA7115, only I can say is that in the
web of philips thera are the datasheets but is only preliminary
information, no final documentation and no very good, that is the
Obviously, Iīll have to study the datasheets one more time
(again...) and reach a conclusion. I hope to advance in it.
If you have any question you could post it here or mail me to
Thats all, thanks by your attention.
Simon wrote in message news:<3DB0054F.firstname.lastname@example.org>...
> condensator wrote:
> > Hi, I have developing a system very similar to your, I will use a
> > rabbit rcm3000, zoran36060 and a Philips saa7115 (is a bit different
> > to saa7110). I hope that you could help me with many doubts that I
> > have.
> > The first problem is with the signals on LLC and LLC2 in the Philips
> > that are not recomended for new designs, but are the only signals
> > available that could link to VCKL and VCKLx2 in the zoran. The
> > question is that the zoran needs 27Mhz and 13.5Mhz and these are the
> > only outputs in the decoder that offers this frecuenzy. Other solution
> > could be use the ICLK and put an extern frecuency divisor. I donīt
> > know what option use.
> I've managed to fry my RCM2100 that I was initially developing with,
> so progress has halted until the delivery of the 3200 kit, but I'll
> answer as I can...
> I was using VCLK and VCLKx2 linked up to LLC and LLC2 as well. There's
> no mention of LLC/LLC2 not being recommended in the SAA7110A datasheet
> that I could find. Perhaps it's a 7115 issue...
> I had though of using the SAA7114H/V2 as well (the decoding of SMPTE
> VITC timecode would be useful for me) although at that point I'd have to
> place some logic (PLD or FPGA probably) between the SAA and the zoran
> chip. I couldn't find any reference to not-recommended-for-new-designs
> in the 7114 datasheet either though. Where are you getting the
> recommendation from ?
> > The second doubt is about IDQ signal in the decoder, Itīs a good
> > idea connect it to PVALID(zoran)?
> Um, I don't have an IDQ signal.
> My currently-being-made PCB has a lot of pin-headers on it so I can
> change the pin-connections to set it up how I want. Once I'm happy, I'll
> make a new PCB with the burnt-in connections on it. Essentially I have
> (you'll probably want a monospaced font for this to look ok...)
> +-------+ +-------+ +----------+
> | SAA |---+-+---| |---+-+---| |
> | Video |///|X|///| Zoran |///|X|///| RCM 3200 |
> | |---+-+---| |---+-+---| |
> +--+-+--+ +-------+ +----+-+---+
> ... where |X| allows me to change the pins around easily, and //// is an
> IDC cable between the PCB's. Somewhat overkill perhaps, but I'm sick of
> discovering a fatal flaw in the PCB 10 minutes after it's come back from
> the makers :-)
> > The third doubt is about if i use the zoran like master of slave of
> > rabbit. This doubt comes about I think that is needed introduce
> > data-code to the zoran to configure it (zoran working as slave?) and
> > it neccesary to get the data information of the image (zoran working
> > as master?). How do you solve this situation?
> I haven't tried it yet, but I didn't see any real problem - although I
> was planning on having the 36060 in 8-bit slave-mode all the time anyway.
> I think you may be confusing the host interface with the code interface.
> When you're in master-mode, ONLY jpeg data comes over the code
> interface, and ONLY commands go over the host interface - at least
> that's how I read it... There should never be any confusion between
> writing config data, and reading/writing jpeg data.
> > The fourth question (many thanks if you have read untill this point)
> > is how work with the data from the zoran in the rabbit, maybe you
> > could tell me where do you stores the data and how do you assign it a
> > name like aaa.jpg to put on the ftp server of the rabbit.
> I'm planning on having a networked PC grab the data via a socket within
> a second thread, and not store it on the rabbit at all - I may be
> grabbing for 3 hours continuously (although only at 1/2 res) so there's
> no space to store the data locally.
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