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From: Chuck Simmons
Organization: You jest.
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Subject: Re: Aylward, Engelhardt: Noise in a transient sim?
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Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 20:56:50 GMT
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Kevin Aylward wrote:
>
> "John Woodgate" wrote in message
> news:84yaYfAl96u9Ew5v@jmwa.demon.co.uk...
> > I read in sci.electronics.design that Kevin Aylward
> > wrote (in
> > ntli.net>) about 'Aylward, Engelhardt: Noise in a transient sim?', on
> > Sun, 27 Oct 2002:
> > > There is *nothing* wrong in my
> > >explanation, imo, at all.
> >
> > Ah, 'imo'. No, it's not *wrong*, but it isn't getting across.
> >
> > > Mike simple won't listen! Its not always the
> > >fault of the teacher while a student wont understand.
> >
> > No, not always, but it takes two to tango, or, in this case, step on
> > each other's toes.
> >
> > Your post contained a perfect example of 'talking past'. What is the
> > standard deviation of a sinusoid? Zero *in the frequency domain*
> > (neglecting the 'Big Bang to Heat Death' formality). Equal to the
> r.m.s.
> > value *in the time domain*. Both right, apparently mutually
> > contradictory, but not.
>
> I don't understand what you second claim is. Are you saying that the rms
> value in the time domain is equal to the rms value in the frequency
> domain, if so you have missed something, cos this aint so. I have
> consistently said, the rms/sd value of the *width* in *time* and the
> rms/sd of the *width* in *frequency*. It would seem that you may be
> referring to the *height*, i.e. its voltage/amplitude value, which is
> indeed specified to be the same in both domains.
Oh dear. You are as damned pedantic as I am. Well, good hunting to ya.
Chuck
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... The times have been,
That, when the brains were out,
the man would die. ... Macbeth
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