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/iframe></center><br><br> <br><br> </center> </td></tr> </table> <center> <table> <tr> <td width="600"> <center><hr width="400"><font size="2"><b>The <a href="http://www.cyber-spy.com/">Cyber-Spy.Com</a> Usenet Archive Feeds Directly<br>From The Open And Publicly Available Newsgroup<br>Sci.Electronics.Design<br><br>This Group And Thousands Of Others Are Available<br>On Most IS NNTP News Servers On Port 119.<br><br><a href="http://www.cyber-spy.com/">Cyber-Spy.Com</a> Is NOT Responsible For Any Topic,<br>Opinions Or Content Posted To This Or Any Other<br>Newsgroup. This Web Archive Of The Newsgroup And<br>Posts Are For Informational Purposes Only.<br><br></b></font><hr width="400"></center> <center><font size="2"><pre><b> From: Uwe Zimmermann <uwe@imit.kth.se> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Wrestlemania Royale: Tantalum vs. Electrolytic Vs. Polys, etc. Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 23:15:57 +0100 Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden Message-ID: <3DBC659D.9802318D@imit.kth.se> References: <hkferu0384p4a6bcnh5vbldvfijdt6m3qk@4ax.com> <a7076635.0210250420.763e97c9@posting.google.com> <3db97370.131896254@news.pacific.net.sg> <871568ec.0210260602.53600838@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: bb-62-5-39-96.bb.tninet.se Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 22:16:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en]C-CCK-MCD {SillyDog} (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,de,sv,ru john jardine wrote: > > Basically, there are no clear rules for selecting caps, as at the end > of the day they all do the same thing. A 10n capacitor of whatever > type or maker will electrically always work as a 10n cap should work. > Some types are good at holding their manufactured value over time. > Some hold their value well against temp' changes. Some change in a > fixed manner with temp'. Some types work well at high voltages. Some > have exceedingly low losses. Some have 'self healing' aspects. Many of > these products can (in varying degree) have a range of these > properties. That's quite an optimistic view of an ideal capacitor. However all capacitors you buy, wherever you buy them, are far from ideal. A capacitor as you buy it is never fully represented by its capacitance and the deviation of capacitance over time/temperature/voltage alone. These little things are rather complicated circuit elements consisting of inductances and resistances in the leads and possibly in the metal foil, leakage resistance through the dielectric,.... ____ ____ C ---|____|--|____|--o----||----o--- Ls Rs | ____ | o--|____|--o Rp represents a simple model of a real capacitor. Whether or not the parasitics can be neglected depends mainly on the type and size of the capacitor and the frequency you intend to use. In the manufacturers datasheets you should normally find an impedance vs frequency plot, where you can see the frequency above which the parasitic inductance starts to dominate the behaviour. This can be several to several tens of kHz for electrolytics, some 100kHz to several MHz for plastic foil capacitors and up to several 100MHz for single layer ceramic capacitors. http://www.vishay.com/products/capacitors/main.html http://www.evox-rifa.com/europe/film_capacitor_catalog.htm http://www.cornell-dubilier.com/mmultiframe.htm (just to name a few) Uwe. </b></pre></font><hr width="650"><a href="http://www.cyber-spy.com/electo-index.html"><font size="3">Go Back To The <a href="http://www.cyber-spy.com/">Cyber-Spy.Com</a><br>Usenet Web Archive Index Of<br>The sci.electronics.design Newsgroup</font></a><br><br></center></td><img src="http://cyber-spy.com/cgi-bin/livecntr.pl?0+1+unetsci" width="1" height="1" alt="The Cyber-Spy Toolkit - powerful internet spy software - live police scanners - usenet fbi secrets archive - newsgroup spy electronics archive - search engine spy tools - download TCST today!"> </tr> </table> </center> <center> <br><center><hr size="3"></center> <table width="100%" cellpadding="0" border="0" cellspacing="0"> <tr> <td align="left" valign="top"><small><b><i><a href="http://www.cyber-spy.com/index.html">Cyber-Spy.Com Live Resources</a></i></b></small></td> <td align="right" valign="top"><small> Copyright Alpha Omega Delta,<br> All rights reserved. </small></td> </tr> </table> <center><hr size="3"></center> <br><br> <br><br></center> </body></html>