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From: "Michael A. Terrell"
Subject: Re: Career in computer science
Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:34:59 -0500
Organization: Have you seen my bench? No, really! Where is it?
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john jardine wrote:
> firstname.lastname@example.org (The little lost angel) wrote in message news:<email@example.com>...
> > On 28 Oct 2002 07:29:58 -0800, firstname.lastname@example.org (john
> > jardine) wrote:
> > >Anyway ... Where's the "science" in 'computer science'?. Why not
> > >'computer technology' or just 'computers'?. ;-)
> > I think the science part refers to the computational theories and
> > stuff no? The kind of things that normally programmers don't bother
> > with, like the theoretical upper bound and lower bound of whatever
> > algorithm they happen to be using.
> I think you're spot on there, LLA. They are stuffing their courses
> full of this useless rubbish because it offers pretentions in the
> direction of the computing subject being possibly regarded as a
> 'science' by their 'real' scientific colleagues. There's no actual
> 'science' in the subject (natural laws of computing etc) so they are
> looking to mathematics to provide some kind of veneer or hallmark of
> respectibility (obfuscation). To this end they will grab and
> incorporate any old rubbish maths that look like it may have a
> computing aspect. Never mind the quality, feel the width.
> Computing consists of hardware and software.
> The hardware has already been done by the electronics engineers so
> they don't teach it. The software is done by programmers. Programming
> is an artform and not a science so they can't teach that either.
> What the hell are they actually teaching! ;-)
> In the past 60 years only two things have come from the computer
> 'science' world that I would regard as specifically clever and worthy
> of teaching.
> The first is the idea of neural nets.
> The second is the 'shell sort' algorithm.
> (I forcefully restrain myself from starting to rant about the AI world
As in: They don't have enough real intelligence to create artificial
Michael A. Terrell
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