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Subject: Re: what is so great about design job?
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Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 08:35:22 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 09:35:22 CET
Organization: Telia Internet
Oh, man you're depressing! But so fucking true!
"mikey" wrote in message
> wrote in message news:firstname.lastname@example.org...
> > Hi,
> > I am about to graduate soon and I am thinking about a VLSI design job
> > many of my colleagues also want design jobs.
> VLSI is where the money is. Your aim should be to earn as much as possible
> for doing as little as possible. Don't dream about loyalty to a company,
> company is merely a collection of individuals out for themseves and their
> families; you owe them what their entiltled to, no more, no less. Hence,
> don't think about promotion, instead pursue a strategy that makes you your
> own man through contracting. Use your job as a means to make you highly
> marketable in say five years time.
> >Myself I am not sure on that
> > since I dont see the field so attractive:
> There is the problem of keeping up with technology also. If your pay
> compensate for the prostitution of your mind - very scary when you think
> about it -, then you're a fool. At least become a technician so that you
> have enough energy in your free time to do what is worthwhile in itself.
> about impressing your future children and friends by taking up the piano
> > 1)there is lot of pressure -you often run into problems and bugs hard to
> > solve while struggling to keep the deadlines;
> And you won't get paid extra for it. The "company" thinks nothing of
> stealing your free-time.
> > I had a chance to talk to talk
> > to a Pro with 15 years of experience he says he is fed up with tough
> > and sometimes bored
> Should try contracting, the money will alleviate this problem.
> > 2)teamwork can be stressful (big egoes, someone to blame when things go
> > wrong, hard to get noticed..)
> And your boss able to make-or-break you career.
> > 3)Slim chance for excellent salaries if you are not a top 3% candidate-
> > make it to management you probably need a PhD;Also I wonder if marketing
> > sales jobs generally pay better?
> Career prospects for arse-lickers are excellent, in particular those with
> propensity towards discarding those that are no longer needed. People at
> top tend to have few friends and won't promote those more talented, unless
> they can be controlled.
> > I feel if I get into design I should work on smth that is suitable for
> > technical support or sales for example design of electronics for
> > instrumentation equipment or Power sources design
> If you want to go into design, go into say PCI, USB. Something that is
> marketable but which means you don't have to work your butt off, day in
> day out. Minimize worthless knowledge in itself, maximize it's useage.
> > Any comments especially from the design veterans who could point the
> > an engineer needs to be good in design, highly appreciated
> Knowledge. Are you prepared to prostitute your mind?
> Very rarely, unless you're designing medical equipment or working on the
> Large Hadron Collider etc will a job be worthwile in itself. It's a truism
> that interest breeds concentration, but concentration also breeds
> A job is initially interesting, but after focussed concentration it
> interesting and the foolish Design Engineer whittles away their free time
> for the sake of perfection. Sad and pathetic.
> > undecided
> Lucky B******. Think of yourself as having your wish granted on your
> death-bed: To live your life over again.
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