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From: Chuck Simmons
Organization: You jest.
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Subject: Re: TCPA (Trusted Computing Platform Alliance) and future PC use for
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Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2002 13:16:34 GMT
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"N. Coesel" wrote:
> "Chuck Simmons" wrote in message
> > "N. Coesel" wrote:
> > >
> > > "ricardo" wrote in message
> > > news:3DC58036.335D721E@erckert-ibe.de...
> > > > I read an article about TCPA (Trusted Computing Platform Alliance).
> > > > project targets on introducing hardware protection against running
> > > > uncertified software. Any software without certificat is intended no
> > > > be executable on future PCs.
> > > > What happens to allt the engineering software written daily for the
> > > > folloing purposes:
> > > >
> > > > Does TCPA mean we have to refrain from using PCs for engineering and
> > > > switch to UNIX workstations?
> > > > When does delivery of PCs with such hindering hardware start?
> > >
> > > Hmm, I wonder when something _really_ new is going to be invented. In
> > > early 1980 DEC already shipped a desktop computer with an unique number
> > > it mainly to enable software vendors to create software that runs on
> only 1
> > > computer. I think these where called DEC Rainbow, but I can't remember
> > > name right now.
> > I did not know that the Rainblow (as many of us at DEC at the time
> > called it) had that feature. The VAX 11-7xx series all had unique serial
> I was wrong, it's the DEC PRO I was typing about.
Ah, yes. The Pro. In engineering, we knew about the DEC PCs but never
saw them. The early VAXstations were contemporary with the Rainbow and
the Pro so it was pointless to have a PC in an engineer's office or the
lab. I never actually used a PC until I left DEC and and bought one.
When I left the company, I had to give them back the VAXstation II I had
had in my living room for years. A PC in 1992 was a bad joke when
compared to a five year old VAXstation II.
> > > Besides, a lot of software already uses licence schemes based on
> > > ID, MAC or IP address.
> > These methods have various diseases but they definitely beat having a
> > dongle. A dongle has the advantage, in any event, that in an emergency,
> > the license is completely portable.
> That's why I always clone computers and choose for harddrive ID; all
> machines will have the same harddrive ID and so the license it completely
> portable :-)
Nice when you can do it that way.
... The times have been,
That, when the brains were out,
the man would die. ... Macbeth
Chuck Simmons firstname.lastname@example.org
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