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From: firstname.lastname@example.org (milne_v)
Subject: Re: household electrical failiure
Date: 4 Nov 2002 13:33:23 -0800
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Fred Bloggs wrote in message news:<3DC6807F.email@example.com>...
> milne_v wrote:
> > firstname.lastname@example.orgUrPants (Take off UrPants to reply) wrote in message news:<email@example.com>...
> >>My house has two sections, a main house and an annex/garage. They have separate
> >>breaker boxes. We have been having trouble with almost all the power in the
> >>annex going out. My sister lives in that side and when she plugs in to many
> >>heaters, etc... The socket breaker in the bathroom plug snaps open.
> >>This takes out all the power in the annex (upstairs and downstairs) except the
> >>bathroom lights. This despite the fact that none of the main breakers are
> >>tripped open. If I get her to unplug some stuff, then I can reset the plug in
> >>the bathroom and everything else comes on.
> >>The other day she said that she went in to her side and found the power out,
> >>except the bathroom lights. I tried to reset the bathroom plug but it would
> >>not. Thinking that the breaker in the bathroom plug might be defective, I
> >>replaced the plug in there. I was not able to find a plug with a breaker in the
> >>hardware store so I got an ordinary plug and wired that in. There were two
> >>white, two gray and one green wire in the receptacle. I wired the white to the
> >>left side of the plug, the gray to the right side and the green to the ground
> >>on the bottom.
> >>The power still does not work on that side. I am thinking of trying to wire the
> >>white together directly, and the gray together directly to see if I can bypass
> >>that plug.
> >>It is possible that there is a break in the wires somewhere due to the fact
> >>that we have had a rat problem and there have been gnawing on stuff in the
> >>walls of the garage.
> >>Any advice?
> >>Direct replies to Michalchik@aol.com appreciated.
> >>Part 2.
> >>The mystery deepens. I went to the hardware store and got one of those voltage
> >>sensor pens. The ones that light up when they're near a live wire. This
> >>sensor lights up near all the sockets or appliances plugged into the sockets in
> >>the side of the house where nothing works. I figure this must mean the circuit
> >>is not completing not because of a break in the hot white wire, but because of
> >>the break in a powerstation ground, the gray wire. If I remember correctly
> >>powerstation ground fluctuates between a bout + and - 10 to 20 volts. I don't
> >>know if this makes my job any easier in fixing the problem I wonder if I could
> >>hook powerstation ground straight to the regular ground? No, that would
> >>probably just result in some sort of short, though not as serious as a short
> >>between earth ground and the hot wire.
> >>By the way the ground fault protection socket that I replaced with an ordinary
> >>socket was not originally installed in the house, it was added later by
> >>contractor who thought that socket was to close to the sink and might get
> >>splashed. The circuit's on the Annex side are still hooked up to the main
> >>breaker box as per the specs of local code and original architects plan. That
> >>socket kept on tripping because it was not up to the power requirements of the
> >>downstream wiring.
> > I have a problem where large scale transient pulses approx 50-300us
> > wide as well a net currents are effecting the homes electrical service
> > via the neutral. An electrician as well as myself have determined that
> > the source is not on the home side of the service. The hydro company
> > responsible for looking into this problem refuses to respond in order
> > to correct the problem. Transients (sometimes multiple transients) can
> > vary in position from each zero crossing to almost the peak of the
> > 60Hz sine and also vary in amplitude. Same transients produce loud
> > resonant harmonics and vibrations in operating motorized appliances or
> > even high pitched buzz in operating audio amplifiers etc. Transients
> > are easily viewed simply by scoping between the neutral wire and earth
> > ground at the breaker box with all breakers shut off etc for circuit
> > powering the scope.
> Sounds like you've been targeted for power line mind-control....
power line electrocution or electrical fire, the neutral is hot....
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