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/iframe></center><br><br> <br><br> </center> </td></tr> </table> <center> <table> <tr> <td width="600"> <center><hr width="400"><font size="2"><b>The <a href="http://www.cyber-spy.com/">Cyber-Spy.Com</a> Usenet Archive Feeds Directly<br>From The Open And Publicly Available Newsgroup<br>Sci.Electronics.Design<br><br>This Group And Thousands Of Others Are Available<br>On Most IS NNTP News Servers On Port 119.<br><br><a href="http://www.cyber-spy.com/">Cyber-Spy.Com</a> Is NOT Responsible For Any Topic,<br>Opinions Or Content Posted To This Or Any Other<br>Newsgroup. This Web Archive Of The Newsgroup And<br>Posts Are For Informational Purposes Only.<br><br></b></font><hr width="400"></center> <center><font size="2"><pre><b> From: "Jeroen" <dev@null.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch.embedded,sci.electronics.design References: <c926d8d6.0211090543.5e53fffb@posting.google.com> <3DCDB1A5.34E114E3@bellatlantic.net> <c926d8d6.0211101805.25c0b1e7@posting.google.com> <KAIz9.66352$I6.6782714@zwoll1.home.nl> <3DCFBAF5.94BFFDC9@xympatico.ca> <iaQz9.68251$I6.6967257@zwoll1.home.nl> <h2vvsustafsg947n5clbftq0dh6kal9itg@4ax.com> Subject: Re: CAN Protocol and SAE J1850, ISO9141 and J1939 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <9MVz9.69792$I6.7189969@zwoll1.home.nl> Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:03:01 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.120.154.29 NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 23:00:37 MET Organization: @Home Network "Marc Geyskens" <emgee@village.uunet.be> wrote in message news:h2vvsustafsg947n5clbftq0dh6kal9itg@4ax.com... > "Jeroen" <dev@null.com> wrote: > > > >> Does anybody know which vehicles implement CAN, or how this can be > >> discovered? Also, what is the relationship between ISO9141 and CAN, if > >> any? How about between SAE J1939 and CAN? > > > >I know that Ford used what they call 'multiplex' in their now out of > >production Scorpio. But that was only for central door locking, power > >windows and power sunroof. It could have been CAN but for this simple > >system, I guess they used something much simpler. > > > >I think CAN and the like is mainly used in high-end cars where the savings > >by using CAN or something similar are substantial. > > > >Jeroen > > > > Fiat uses CAN in its Punto, wich is not a high end car. They use low > and high speed. If I remember it right; they call it Venice and 01 05, I think in CAN it would be 01 [ECU ID] 05. > Just guessing :|). But I think it's the first Fiat that uses CAN. It's of course quite a new car. Probably in a year or 10, every new car will have CAN, just like power windows, ABS, central locking, airco etc. Things that were not really common ten years ago on lower end cars, but now are. Jeroen </b></pre></font><hr width="650"><a href="http://www.cyber-spy.com/electo-index.html"><font size="3">Go Back To The <a href="http://www.cyber-spy.com/">Cyber-Spy.Com</a><br>Usenet Web Archive Index Of<br>The sci.electronics.design Newsgroup</font></a><br><br></center></td><img src="http://cyber-spy.com/cgi-bin/livecntr.pl?0+1+unetsci" width="1" height="1" alt="The Cyber-Spy Toolkit - powerful internet spy software - live police scanners - usenet fbi secrets archive - newsgroup spy electronics archive - search engine spy tools - download TCST today!"> </tr> </table> </center> <center> <br><center><hr size="3"></center> <table width="100%" cellpadding="0" border="0" cellspacing="0"> <tr> <td align="left" valign="top"><small><b><i><a href="http://www.cyber-spy.com/index.html">Cyber-Spy.Com Live Resources</a></i></b></small></td> <td align="right" valign="top"><small> Copyright Alpha Omega Delta,<br> All rights reserved. </small></td> </tr> </table> <center><hr size="3"></center> <br><br> <br><br></center> </body></html>