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Subject: Re: NG etiquette
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Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 17:38:43 GMT
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Organization: AT&T Worldnet
I hate to add to a thread started by someone who has used abusive language
But 'Al' seems to have a point, therefore I will add to it anyways.
My question is, why did it take you so long to say this ? Where were you
when all the garbage was being said ?
I agree with almost everything he says.
A clueless reader is the only one who will feel any difficulty. But then, a
clueless newbie should put in the effort to read previous posts and figure
out what went before. Even for him/her, a top post quickly puts him in the
middle of the topic and he just needs to read the 'references' that will be
shown below. Isn't it standard practice in publishing to put references
below the written material ??? Or is it the other way around ? Do you have
any single example of a published piece where the references are all written
up before the writer's material is even touched upon ???
I should add that the complaining type of people are not really clueless
newbies ! They are those who are sticklers to command and certain ways of
doing things that they are used to. I can sympathise with that too. However,
you have to note that this is what the issue is. These people are finding it
extremely annoying to have to change even one bit or think one bit left or
right of the straight line that they are used to and consider to be the
right way of doing things.
For them, I would say, there is usually more than one way of solving any
given problem. There are almost as many different finger-prints as there are
people on earth !
Try to get all people to follow one rigid set of rules and what you will end
up with is revolt everywhere.
People are people. Not Robots or machines or automatons, much as many people
would prefer them to be !
< It appears to be so much easier to deal with robots, does'nt it ? All neat
and clean and perfect and ordered and obedient and not independent, etc. The
only problem is 'no real
umanity !!! >
Are we off-topic by now ? I'll cut it out.
"Al Borowski" wrote in message
> Sorry, this reply is top posted.
> Let's go through several situations, for top and bottom posting.
> 1) Standard reply (paragraph or so, snipping applied):
> Top post: Easy to write, if not much is quoted then easy to read to.
> Bottom post: Slighly longer to write, slighly longer to read (must
> scroll both times)
> 2) Clueless newbie post (AKA me,too! post), lots of quoting, only a
> sentence or so long reply.
> Top post: Easy to see post is worthless, so move on
> Bottom post: Have to scroll through hugly long post just for "me,
> 3) Long rant reply (few paragraphs)
> Top post: Easy to write, bit difficult to read if you only just joined
> the thread
> Bottom post: Slighly more difficult to write, easier to read
> I don't see the big issue with top posting. It's quicker to read and
> write, and is only confusing if you have just joined a thread and
> don't know how to look at the parent atricle.
> I think excessive quoting is a far worse problem. It's a pain in the
> neck. With top posting, whay I'm saying is immediently clear (provided
> you read the parent). with bottom posting it's a pain to scroll
> though lots of junk.
> For a decent article of top posting, see
> anyway this subject has been beaten to death. see
> for more info.
> Also, I'd like to state a few other things while I'm here:
> Transistors sound better then valves
> RPN is better then algerbraic
> Emacs is better then Vi
> Holden is better then ford
> Coke is better then pepsi
> "Phil Allison" wrote in message
> > "Al Borowski" wrote in message
> > news:firstname.lastname@example.org...
> > > Could someone please explain what's wrong with top posting?
> > ** Everything. Do a Google search on "top posting usenet" and read
> > dozens of explanations.
> > ................ Phil
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