From: Watson 'Atto Parsec' Name
Subject: Re: Telephone Hookup
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Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 10:32:44 -0800
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In article <email@example.com>,
> Hi, Folks and Folkettes! :-)
> The guy where I work is going to let me park my Winnebago in his back yard
> at a ridiculously low rent, and I think he's going to let me _have_
> electricity. And water. This is very cool. :-)
> Now, the telephone situation: bear with me a bit -
> The building has what looks like a standard 25-pair trunk coming into
> the building, and has an entrance panel (telco) that's really, really
> easy to get to. It also has a bunch of brand-new wiring, and a bunch
> of old wiring that looks like it's been just sitting there since the
> inception of the building. From the look of it, it's at least 20
> years old (the previous wiring) - i.e. it's got a panel of 1/4-20
> brass studs with brass nuts; that sort of thing.
> Well, there's an outlet box for electricity, where he's going to
> let me plug in, and there's a very, very old pair of wires within
> 3 feet of this same box, and I think the other end of this old
> pair comes out by or at the 25-trunk entrance panel. But there's
> about a half-dozen pairs all the same color, wrapped up at the
> panel. So, my questions are:
> 1. What's the cheapest, easiest, quickest, and possibly dirtiest
> way to find out which pair at the entrance panel is the other
> end of the pair at my hookup? (It's about 100 ft, all indoor,
> and no conduit except for about 6 ft. at the end where I'd hook
Well, you take a DMM and find out what voltage is on the jack end of the
pair. If it is zero, proceed to next step. If you get some voltage
like 48 volts, then it probably already has dial tone, and all you do is
hook up a phone and dial someone's cell phone to find out what the
If you get zero volts, then check to see that it is open circuited,
hopefully not a bad cable pair. Remember that people disconnect the
phone line at the central office, and seldom mess with the wiring in the
panel. So you will be mearsuring the whole line back to the CO. Then
when you've determined that it's open, put a 9V battery on the jack end.
Go to the panel with the DMM and poke around, and you should find zero
on the lines not connected, 48 or so volts on the lines that are
working, or if someone is on the line, some voltage near the 9V. And if
you find almost the same 9V that is at your battery, you should have
found the line you're looking for.
> 2. Is there such a thing as a weather-resistant outdoor-style
> RJ-11 phone jack or a suitable sub? Or should I just rely on
> Duct Tape?
The usual is to get a jack that fits a duplex outlet. Then go to the
Big Orange Box hardware store and buy a weatherproof cover for the
outlet. Or else, go to Graybar and buy an outdoor Network Interface or
whatever they call it. Rat Snack also used to have those. See URL
http://www.hctc.net/instruct.htm for a pic of what it looks like.
In any case, the best place to ask these questions is comp.dcom.cabling.
You have to connect up to the line, so make a biege box by putting
alligator clips on the end of a modular cord. Then test for
conversation while your friend is on the phone.
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