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From: Don Pearce
Subject: Re: question about newsgroup rules
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 17:39:35 +0000
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On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 17:18:14 -0000, "John Jardine"
>Don Pearce wrote in message
>> On Sat, 14 Dec 2002 14:35:53 -0000, "John Jardine"
>> >Bob Dickerman wrote in message
>> >> Is it OK to notify the group about an eBay auction for test and
>> >> equipment (such as an oscilloscope or LCR meter), or would that be
>> >> considered SPAM?
>> >> --
>> >> Robert L. Dickerman
>> >> Dickerman Electronics
>> >> 32 Alexander Hill Road
>> >> Northfield, MA 01360
>> >> 413-498-5461
>> >Most definitely spam. (even if with the best of intentions).
>> >If I see the 'FS' somewhere I have to make effort to delete it, as it
>> >in the way of the good stuff I may wish to read.
>> >Most of the the UK ebay, scopes and LCR meters and other equipments are
>> >small time commercial operators. Notice for example how the listings are
>> >clogged up with PAT testing equipment and rubbish electrical gear.
>> >Hate to see these particular groups gummed up the same way many others
>> >If I want to buy a particular kit, I'll look at what (say) ebay is
>> >Not otherwise
>> >It's really a question of maintaining standards and a purity of purpose
>> >within a culture awash with crass, basal commercialism.
>> Interesting. When I read a newsgroup listing, I see many threads which
>> I decide I don't want to read, but they don't get in the way of any of
>> the other threads, nor do I need to delete them. I strongly suspect
>> you need to get yourself a better newsreader.
>> As for purity of purpose whose purpose, precisely, would that be? Not
>> yours by any chance...
>> Telecommunications consultant
>It's a personal style thing using Outlook express and groups. I'll tend to
>switch the computer on and spend maybe an hour each day just 'trawling' back
>and forth across a number of groups. I'll read what looks interesting and
>mark as 'read' any others. New posts turn up in bold typeface and are
>instantly visible. spam gets in the way of this, as either it is obviously
>spam and has to be marked off, or looks like a valid post and may be
Ah - as I thought. You need a better newsreader - I should have
spotted the standard OE "thread-screwing" on the indents and markings.
Try Forte Agent, and you will have a newsreader in which Spam doesn't
get in the way of anything (I'm still not sure how it gets in the way
of stuff on OE, but then again I don't use it).
>The "purity of purpose" is not my own. My own "purity of purpose" is simply
>to have have impossible amounts of sex and to die fabulously wealthy aged
>The "purity of purpose" I referred to is the fundamental 'raison d'etre' for
>which the whole groups concept exists.
>I didn't invent the the concept. I have had no part in forming it or any of
>the resulting groups. These groups had been extant years before I came
>along. I'm just a casual observer watching on the sidelines.
>What I have seen though, has been agreeable enough for me to subscribe to
>the core idea. (the "purpose" bit).
>Concievably, I may have totally misunderstood the idea behind a group but
>essentially I thought it was simply a meeting place for group of people with
>similar dedicated interests. It's open 24/365 for people drop in and out and
>chat about things that interest/stimulate/amuse.
>**I've yet though, to find an electronics person, who takes active pleasure
>in reading random advertisments**.
>Therefore the more advertisments that appear on a newsgroup, then the less
>the group is of value to its subscribers and consequently the groups
>purpose is attenuated. (the "purity" bit)
Although I haven't examined this group in particular, the charters of
most groups are quite specific in permitting small personal ads and
announcements of items for auction etc. They should therefore be
considered a part of the "pure" use of the group.
I think the phrase that springs most readily to mind is "lighten up".
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