From: email@example.com (john jakson)
Subject: Re: VLSI training in Romania, Austria , Greece or Russia?
Date: 15 Dec 2002 13:30:32 -0800
NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 Dec 2002 21:30:33 GMT
firstname.lastname@example.org (TI) wrote in message news:<email@example.com>...
> Dear all,
> I am an Electrical Engineer
> and I would like to specialize in the area of VLSI.
> I wonder if there are any VLSI courses offered in Romania, Austria ,
> Greece or Russia
> in English(or Russian) commercially/non-commercially that cover
> -Techniques for digital system design
> -Hardware description languages
> -Design methodology for VLSI circuits and systems: ASIC, FPGA, PLD
> -Employing EDA tools like: ModelSim, Leonardo, Xilinx, Altera, etc.
> That could be either at some company or training center or maybe
> through distance
> internet course,
> please let me know of any details
I am not sure why anybody would study VLSI today as in the Mead Conway
sense since the no of ASIC starts seems to be declining with the
rapidly rising costs of masks etc. It is my opinion that ASIC design
has been reduced to being a tool pushing specialist job with the
threat of $1M mistakes over your head. I've seen the mistakes a few
times too many. Now Analog or RF or real architecture are interesting
areas. Even if you got to work on a major VLSI, you cou can only work
on a tiny part of the chip.
But FPGAs are like VLSI were a long time ago, you could master a whole
project in tiny teams or individual effort, the speeds are practically
where VLSI was 10yrs ago approx 50-200MHz and you can easily afford
the entry level tools. Altera & Xilinx have free tools to download for
lower devices which are still capable of large 1 person projects. The
entry level FPGAs are in the $10-50 and the boards start at $100 & up.
Biggest FPGAs & designs are multi person and somewhat like ASIC design
flow. Many VLSI/ASIC people are moving to FPGAs because VLSI costs are
now out ofreach. Mistakes are almost free. You can lerk in
comp.arch.fpga to learn more do Google fpga ....