From: Chris Watkins
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NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:11:25 EST
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:23:50 -0500
Phil Seakins wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Dec 2002 13:21:13 -0500, Chris Watkins
> >> > I wish someone would just come up with something that was able to detect
> >> > "UNKNOWN NAME" in the caller ID stream, and immediately pickup/hangup.
> >> > That doesn't work for everyone, obvviously... as some friend's phone may
> >> > popup that way... but it'd be fine for most of us, I'm positive :-)
> >> > (Any of my affected friends would just have to get over it.)
> >> IIRC, Bell South has that.
> >I wish. They're the ones who told me that it isn't possible with current
> >technology. Some day, I may find the initiative to take the inputs to the
> >LCD circuit, find a way to interface it with one of my *nix boxen, turn
> >the bits into text, grep for UNKNOWN, and use a relay setup to terminate
> >those calls. It's all just a matter of finding the time to do the needed
> >experimentation. Spare time is in pretty short supply, as usual.
> You've been mis-informed. I have a BellSouth call identifier. It has a
> digitally recorded voice announcement. If you turn on the feature and
> receive a call from an "unknown number" it answers, says something
> like, "This party does not accept calls from unknown callers" and
> hangs up. I believe it also has a spanish option.
> I've had the unit since 1997, I bought it from a friend of mine in
> Atlanta. It works fine here in Australia! Its model number is 1000M.
> For customer service call 888-755-BELL.
I hoped I had been misinformed... and set out to do my own research,
after talking with Bellsouth numerous times. Everywhere I go, I get
the same information. All the call rejection schemes work on information
provided by the phone service. When you get a call from someone who is
outside of an area that has caller ID service, or someone who is calling
from within a phone bank, and it displays as unknown name or unavailable,
you can't add the number to your block list, reject, trace, or anything.
These features only work against those who have outgoing caller ID block
enabled, or those who have blocked their number per each call. For those
whom the phone company protects by not ID'ing their outgoing calls, it
is of no use whatsoever. Obvious question is, "Why do they do that?".
Certain ID units will recognize, and play a message to the caller before
ringing your phone, giving them the opportunuity to ID themselves, but
you still have to pickup the phone and listen to their message, then
decide whether to take the call, ignore the call, or send your own
message that you don't accept solicitation calls. So far, I've found no
"automatic" option here, whatsoever. (Except on callers that show up as
"private" or "blocked". Those are automatically dumped, yes.)
Everywhere I go, here in the states... it's the same. Each phone
service that offers caller ID, ACR, call blocking, etc... has the
same caveat listed on the page:
Might not work for "some" calls.
Digging deeper into each site... "SOME calls" translates further to:
"Unknown callers and out-of-area calls cannot be rejected."
Be happy that it works for you, is all I can say ;-)
I think I'll go back to lurking now... figures my first actual posts
would be of the "off-topic" nature. This is just a hot-button for me.