From: "Steve Andrew"
Subject: Re: The need for a well rounded education
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Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 08:23:33 GMT
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James Llort wrote:
> I'm concerned about the narrowm view of the world 'hard' science
> students have these days. I think the problem starts at college -
> There's a culture that somehow science is more rational and usefull
> then the humanitities. Lecturers encourage students to joke about arts
> students, and humilaite them whenever possible. This encourages
> eliteism, and I for one am sick of it.
> Let's tell it like it is. 'science' is just as much about opinion as
> the humanities. Research simply follows the fad of the day. Take
> dieticians for example. These men and woman believe that just because
> they have degree in medical science that they are all knowing. Why,
> what they recommend one day may kill you the next! (see the DDT story
> for more information.) Science is 95% opinion then facts, lets face
> it. What about astrology, the most rediculious of the sciences! But I
> Another example is music. We know what sounds good. Everyone aggreed
> that Valves for instance sound great. But knowitall engineers use
> trensastors with inferious sound quality just to save a few bucks.
> They argue with numbers. Hey, I don't want to do maths just to listen
> to music. I know what I like. You cannot apply objective reasoning to
> a subject which is intristically subjective. But try telling those
> recent grads with their useless piece of paper that and they go all
> The problem with you technical guys are that you are all so eliteist.
> Whilst you want to trun collage into a trade school with yore narrow
> minded views that collage should be a job training centre, humanities
> are focused on making you a well rounded person who is auctually
> interesting to be with, not a boring focuesed geek. Really, it makes
> me so mad when people say "oh, he's doing a humanities degree, that's
> easy". I have to read *3* *books* *a* *week* on average. Not picture
> books either I assue you. It is a lot of work, but the upshot is
> improved grammer and spelling skills that are lacking in the
> technical. As for those that say "you will be working at mcdonalds" ,
> I'm going on to so a PhD in socialolgy where I'll be line for tenure
> where I have a much more rewarding job then beeing a science freak or
> an engineer. Anyways, all I have to do to be a engineer wold be to get
> my MSCE and how hard couyld that be? techincal stuff is simply
> whatever fad the market thinks is hot at the moment, but all great
> things were done by humanities.
> You technical types are far to narrow minded and cynsical. You should
> learn to enjoy life.
> Peace be to god, he transcends all.
Found in another NG, slightly OT, or is it ? ;->
The graduate with a Science degree asks, "Why does it work?"
The graduate with an Engineering degree asks, "How does it work?"
The graduate with an Accounting degree asks, "How much will it
The graduate with an Arts degree asks, "Do you want fries with
A happy and peaceful Christmas to you all.