From: email@example.com (Ron)
Subject: Re: The need for a well rounded education
Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 16:44:24 GMT
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Ignorance doesn't know that it's clueless.
On 19 Dec 2002 00:52:48 -0800, firstname.lastname@example.org (James Llort)
>I'm concerned about the narrowm view of the world 'hard' science
>students have these days. I think the problem starts at college -
>There's a culture that somehow science is more rational and usefull
>then the humanitities. Lecturers encourage students to joke about arts
>students, and humilaite them whenever possible. This encourages
>eliteism, and I for one am sick of it.
>Let's tell it like it is. 'science' is just as much about opinion as
>the humanities. Research simply follows the fad of the day. Take
>dieticians for example. These men and woman believe that just because
>they have degree in medical science that they are all knowing. Why,
>what they recommend one day may kill you the next! (see the DDT story
>for more information.) Science is 95% opinion then facts, lets face
>it. What about astrology, the most rediculious of the sciences! But I
>Another example is music. We know what sounds good. Everyone aggreed
>that Valves for instance sound great. But knowitall engineers use
>trensastors with inferious sound quality just to save a few bucks.
>They argue with numbers. Hey, I don't want to do maths just to listen
>to music. I know what I like. You cannot apply objective reasoning to
>a subject which is intristically subjective. But try telling those
>recent grads with their useless piece of paper that and they go all
>The problem with you technical guys are that you are all so eliteist.
>Whilst you want to trun collage into a trade school with yore narrow
>minded views that collage should be a job training centre, humanities
>are focused on making you a well rounded person who is auctually
>interesting to be with, not a boring focuesed geek. Really, it makes
>me so mad when people say "oh, he's doing a humanities degree, that's
>easy". I have to read *3* *books* *a* *week* on average. Not picture
>books either I assue you. It is a lot of work, but the upshot is
>improved grammer and spelling skills that are lacking in the
>technical. As for those that say "you will be working at mcdonalds" ,
>I'm going on to so a PhD in socialolgy where I'll be line for tenure
>where I have a much more rewarding job then beeing a science freak or
>an engineer. Anyways, all I have to do to be a engineer wold be to get
>my MSCE and how hard couyld that be? techincal stuff is simply
>whatever fad the market thinks is hot at the moment, but all great
>things were done by humanities.
>You technical types are far to narrow minded and cynsical. You should
>learn to enjoy life.
>Peace be to god, he transcends all.