From: John Larkin
Subject: Re: Cutting corners?
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 19:50:48 -0800
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On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 01:50:21 -0000, "John Jardine"
>Thanks for the book refs. I'm pleased you've read 'em I look forward to
>doing the same.
>The point you mention about the RN officers is a really good example of the
>difference in national management styles. The practice of the sons of
>wealthy men purchasing commisions in the armed forces, didn't actually stop
>until early in the 1900's. It was a kind of traditional hobby interest thing
>amonst the gentry, with a choice being the military for the elder son or the
>C of E for the younger. This attitude still exists today unfortunately and
>I cringe on many occasions when some commisioned army officer is being
>interviewed on TV in some god forsaken part of the world and I know
>instantly his class, his social background, his history, (and his future)
>just from his accent and general manner and attitude. I know also when he
>leaves the army he will take 'work' as 'something in the city' and spend his
>time in various expensive boardrooms, issuing 'directives' that grossly
>affect the careers of numerous capable and able people that have little
>chance of reaching his level no matter how good they are.
>We're stuck with our culture and possibly the motivated people here would be
>better off emigrating en masse to the rest of Europe, the US or anywhere
>except here!. We'll put up with dickhead and second rate managers as long as
>we can get a fair crack of the whip ;-).
>(Disclaimer ... My working class roots force my biased viewpoint ;-).
I just finished a meeting with one of my customers and his
subcontractor, who will be manufacturing our stuff for the customer
under license from us (we're not, never will be, ISO-9000, so they
can't buy directly from us.) Customer guys: one white-boy ex-US naval
officer, one Chinese American; contractors: one Indian, one Hispanic;
me, reformed Southern-poor-white-trash; my VP, Irish-American female.
All (except me maybe) very smart and very nice. That's typical around
here, and even the American accents tell us virtually nothing about
I think this is fun.