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Subject: Re: What's going on in Australia?
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 12:43:38 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 23:43:38 EST
Organization: BigPond Internet Services (http://www.bigpond.net.au)
Jim Thompson wrote:
> On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 02:58:36 GMT,
> "Richard Henry" ,
> In Newsgroup: alt.binaries.schematics.electronic,
> Article: ,
> Entitled: "Re: What's going on in Australia?",
> Wrote the following:
> |"Phil Allison" wrote in message
> |> "Jim Thompson" wrote in message
> |> news:email@example.com...
> |> > Apparently some Aussie scammer ("...a schemer given to stock scams,
> |> > money laundering and fraud") is suing Dow Jones for defamation:
> |> ** That is the claim made in the defamatory article about Joseph
> |> Gutnik.
> |> It is not a proven fact. Mr Gutnik is suing Dow Jones over
> |> claim.
> |> It would be wise to wait for the outcome before deciding he is
> |> guilty man.
> |> Only jerks go around repeating defamations of people.
> |Where you live, is calling someone a "jerk" defamatory?
> In the USA, for a "public figure" to be defamed, you must prove
> malice. Thus we have basically no libel or slander cases claimed by
> "public figures".
I don't know about malice, and have only seen one Australian news report
on the subject, but accusing someone, who is a highly successful and
generally respected businessman in this country, of being a schemer
given to stock scams, money laundering and fraud, on TV, or in the print
media would result in legal action in most countries, especially the
litigation mad USA. Dow Jones were being typically gutless thinking they
could hide behind the internet to make these claims. If the claims have
substance they should have published it, if they don't they deserve to
be financially gutted, either way to make the cliams on the internet is
cowardly. I thought that even in the US cowardice was frowned upon.
Only a few more minutes until Christmas day here, so have a great one