From: "John Jardine"
Subject: Re: Cutting corners?
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 17:53:08 -0000
NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Dec 2002 17:40:59 GMT
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News2020 wrote in message
> > ...affect the careers of numerous capable and able people that have
> > chance of reaching his level no matter how good they are.
> > We're stuck with our culture and possibly the motivated people here
> > better off emigrating en masse to the rest of Europe, the US or anywhere
> > except here!. We'll put up with dickhead and second rate managers ...
> I take it you are referring to the treatment of Indians by uk companies as
> non-starters (ie. they are told in their face that they can never make it
> management ?). < These uk types will be brought down to its knees
> eventually.- by Europe at large>
Remember, I'm talking here about the kind of UK traditional companies that
have been around for hundreds of years. Mainly financial institutions such
as Banks, stock traders, commodity dealers, arms dealers, ect.
If an Indian were ever told this by some reactionary management type then
they deserve and have every right to take legal redress. The managers career
would be quite rightly finished.
(Why specifically "Indians", News2020?. The ones who suffered the most were
of Pakistani origin.).
This does not happen at the lower levels and it does not happen within more
modern companies that employ people to make money rather that fit in with
some prevailing old school tie ethic or class attitude.
The class differentiation exists predominantly within the higher echelons of
the largest traditional companies and industries. The guys I describe, have
family histories going back a thousand years, went to the same schools,
marry only within their rarified social groups, are members of the same
clubs, work in similar jobs and will socialise only amongst themselves. They
have a natural xenophobia concerning anyone outside their social grouping
and this applies to 99% of the population, regardless of race, creed,
colour or wealth. An Indian for example has as much chance as me of becoming
MD of one of the larger banks. The 'chosen ones' are only a tiny minority
yet own or control most of the wealth and power within the country.
As long as they are allowed to enjoy their birthrights they will make
genuine efforts to provide great stability and continuity within the
culture. Which to be honest, most people need, want and appreciate.
Just don't try and rock the boat ;-)
> The 'we' in your statements must mean uk 'white' ?
No. It doesn't. The "we", I mention is every individual living within the
the shores of this small island of ours.
That means everbody who is prepared to share in the crap weather, the common
culture, the altruism, the occasional opportunity, the acts of kindness, the
odd behaviour, the high prices, the warring nature, the hope ,the horror!