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/iframe></center><br><br> <br><br> </center> </td></tr> </table> <center> <table> <tr> <td width="600"> <center><hr width="400"><font size="2"><b>The <a href="http://www.cyber-spy.com/">Cyber-Spy.Com</a> Usenet Archive Feeds Directly<br>From The Open And Publicly Available Newsgroup<br>Sci.Electronics.Design<br><br>This Group And Thousands Of Others Are Available<br>On Most IS NNTP News Servers On Port 119.<br><br><a href="http://www.cyber-spy.com/">Cyber-Spy.Com</a> Is NOT Responsible For Any Topic,<br>Opinions Or Content Posted To This Or Any Other<br>Newsgroup. This Web Archive Of The Newsgroup And<br>Posts Are For Informational Purposes Only.<br><br></b></font><hr width="400"></center> <center><font size="2"><pre><b> Reply-To: "Kevin Aylward" <kevin@anasoft.co.uk> From: "Kevin Aylward" <kevin@anasoft.co.uk> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design References: <4c3c095a.0212231022.fdd6810@posting.google.com> <PiMN9.5808$6o3.287117@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net> <85fg0vc4obu9t3plhdilkbk0i564mafv4e@4ax.com> <jNZN9.997$BW1.49633@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net> <slyOfbAXsHC+Ewm3@jmwa.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: what is monte caro analysis ? Organization: AnaSoft X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-Inktomi-Trace: public1-pete2-5-cust66.pete.broadband.ntl.com 1040770215 9623 80.0.216.66 (24 Dec 2002 22:50:15 GMT) Message-ID: <Iw5O9.2474$BW1.101880@newsfep1-gui.server.ntli.net> Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 22:50:15 -0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.1.224.4 NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 22:50:16 GMT John Woodgate wrote: > I read in sci.electronics.design that Kevin Aylward > <kevin@anasoft.co.uk> wrote (in > <jNZN9.997$BW1.49633@newsfep1-gui.server .ntli.net>) about 'what is > monte caro analysis ?', on Tue, 24 Dec 2002: >> I think so. This is called Worst Case (re-runs). Indeed, SuperSpice >> does this with a very simple GUI setup >> (http://www.anasoft.co.uk/screenshot.html:-) >> >> I personally, don't use MC at all. I think it has limited use because >> you have to do a lot of runs to get reasonable results, and it might >> not even use the max min values at all. I also think it can give one >> the wrong mindset, e.g. too much trail and error. > > OTOH, worst case is very pessimistic, except for circuits with very > low parts count. I agree, that it can be pesemistic, but thats usually a good thing. Only if you really having trouble in meeting spec, is it worth trying to fine tune the sim a bit. 100 Monte Carlo runs give a good guide to the > sensitivity of the circuit performance against component values. But so does a WC, and in a lotv fewer runs. If > the values used for each run are logged, it's possible to see which > parts are responsible for any suspiciously larger excursion of > performance. But this is still not usually practical for transient runs on anything but small circuits. Kevin Aylward sales@anasoft.co.uk http://www.anasoft.co.uk SuperSpice, a very affordable Mixed-Mode Windows Simulator with Schematic Capture, Waveform Display, FFT's and Filter Design. </b></pre></font><hr width="650"><a href="http://www.cyber-spy.com/electo-index.html"><font size="3">Go Back To The <a href="http://www.cyber-spy.com/">Cyber-Spy.Com</a><br>Usenet Web Archive Index Of<br>The sci.electronics.design Newsgroup</font></a><br><br></center></td><img src="http://cyber-spy.com/cgi-bin/livecntr.pl?0+1+unetsci" width="1" height="1" alt="The Cyber-Spy Toolkit - powerful internet spy software - live police scanners - usenet fbi secrets archive - newsgroup spy electronics archive - search engine spy tools - download TCST today!"> </tr> </table> </center> <center> <br><center><hr size="3"></center> <table width="100%" cellpadding="0" border="0" cellspacing="0"> <tr> <td align="left" valign="top"><small><b><i><a href="http://www.cyber-spy.com/index.html">Cyber-Spy.Com Live Resources</a></i></b></small></td> <td align="right" valign="top"><small> Copyright Alpha Omega Delta,<br> All rights reserved. </small></td> </tr> </table> <center><hr size="3"></center> <br><br> <br><br></center> </body></html>