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From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Rudolf Usselmann)
Subject: Re: Cutting corners?
Date: 24 Dec 2002 20:59:54 -0800
NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Dec 2002 04:59:54 GMT
"John Jardine" wrote in message news:...
> it wrote in message news:email@example.com...
> > Hello everyone,
> > I read the posted salary survey and it indicates that only the good
> > engineers are rewarded by getting promoted to management thus getting a
> > higher salary. If the incentive for good work is money through management
> > than I am wondering perhaps there is another route for engineers to
> > \
> > - It seems to me in order to become a Design engineering manager you need
> > get a PhD nowadays, much harder than getting an MBA and becoming business
> > finance manager, so why not cut corners to better income ?
> > (design is not so great anyway when you hit deadlines or lose track of
> > current stuff)
> > - Can some of the pros let me in what becomes most important with
> > experience, age and family ( right now I love design puzzles, being around
> > smart people and doing teamwork but I suppose as I mature my views on
> > are going to change?)
> > Hope for advice
> (I'm sure I've seen this post [in other guise] twice before)
> It is *not* a 'promotion' to move to management. It is just another job that
> pays more money for doing less.
> From a companies POV it would be a stupid waste of talent if good engineers
> have to take the management path in order to get more cash.
> (Notice I say 'good' engineers).
> What gets me is a smug management perception that engineers 'lack' some
> certain vital qualities (to be divined only by the management themselves)
> sufficient that skilled people can only be allowed to sit on a 'lower' rung
> of the pecking order.
> The management class will at all times, fight tooth and nail to maintain
> this status quo.
I'm not sure where this motion is coming from that
a manager makes more money than an engineer. My
experience has been that a Manager makes more money
than a entry level engineer.
I know for a fact that for the last 10 years my
salary has be higher or equal to that of a Second
I have been offered Management positions several
times, and I have always declined as I enjoy
engineering much more than dealing with company
politics and managing people ...
My experience has been mostly in Silicon Valley.
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