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From: "Phil Allison"
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Subject: Re: What's going on in Australia?
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Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 16:56:05 +1100
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"Greg Pierce" wrote in message
> Phil Allison wrote:
> > ** How does this drivel relates to the Gutnick v Dow Jones case ?
> > Not at all.
> > The published words about Mr Gutnik constitute "gross
> > since they make him out to be a criminal. That is an *illegal* thing
> > in any country. All Mr Gutnik has won the right to do is have his case
> > in a Victorian court rather than a US one.
> > If he gets a judgement against Dow Jones it can be enforced in
> > court later since Australia and the US have such an arrangement in
> > law.
> > A person without his considerable financial resources could not
> > to first base with any of this. They would have to cop any defamation
> > US internet assholes decided to dish out.
> Mr. Gutnick, like most people who sue for defamation, is a sniveler.
** Nope, that is what a turd like you is Greg.
> is acting like a child:
** Greg - you are thinking like one - a stupid one.
"Mr. Juudddgggeeee... Dow Jones called me this
> and that.. Whine, whine, whine, sob, sob, sob" He needs to get over it.
** You need to get it - so far you have not.
> If he is a person of good character, then people who know him will know
> the Dow Jones article is BS.
** What about all those who do not know him too well ? Those whom he
has not yet met but intends to meet and do business with ?? You are such a
f...king idiot you do not comprehend what a serious thing defamation is.
However, if he IS dirty.. well... in that
> case he made his own bed, so he can lie in it.
Hey, if someone doesn't want any of their dirt exposed, the best thing to do
is to not make any
> dirt in the first place.
** So you have decided he is guilty as charged ?
> >>The recent ElcomSoft case is a perfect example:
> > ** Of an entirely different nature.
> Yes, but it is just as disturbing.
> > > a Russian programmer wrote a program which was legal in Russia,
> > ** Since they recognise no copyrights.
> Are you sure?
** That you are an ass ? Guaranteed.
> > >but he was nabbed and tried in the USA for violating the DMCA laws.
> > ** Good.
> Nabbing a foreign national and trying him for something that is not
> illegal in his country is good?
** Straw man fallacy.
That sets a disturbing precedent. Where
> does it end?
** Terrorists in jail ?
> > > Luckily, the jury was smarter than the US Congress
> > ** More idiocy - the two are not even faintly related.
> >>and found him innocent.
> > ** There is no such thing. Only charge not proved on the evidence.
> Ahh... so everyone is guilty huh?
** Asinine. The finding is called " not guilty".
If there is no such thing as being
> found innocent, then Dow Jones could easily make the case that Gutnick
> is indeed a dirtbag.
** More ass's turds.
Since Gutnick couldn't prove that he hasn't done
> anything shady, then Dow Jones is not being defamatory... works for me.
** Is this guy posting from an insane asylum ??
> > John Larkin has a hidden agenda going here - maybe he would like
> > own up what his personal interest is.
> His only agenda is to make you look like an idiot.
** Are you his favourite bum boy ?? Or just a rent boy Greg ?
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