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From: firstname.lastname@example.org (Andrew VK3BFA)
Subject: Re: HELP - My missile wont work!
Date: 28 Dec 2002 16:42:53 -0800
References: <email@example.com> <firstname.lastname@example.org>
NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Dec 2002 00:42:54 GMT
John Larkin wrote in message news:<email@example.com>...
> On 28 Dec 2002 01:08:43 -0800, firstname.lastname@example.org (Andrew
> VK3BFA) wrote:
> >Hello Nice People,
> >recently a myself and a bunch of Freedom Fighter friends bought a
> >whole batch of surplus Russian surafe to air missiles - we were very
> >dissapointed to find that when we fired two of them at an Israeli
> >airliner, they missed!. The things took off ok, and went "Bang" at the
> >end of there flight, but, golly gosh, the guidance systems didnt work
> >and they missed.
> >We contacted the vendor, and he said since they were surplus there was
> >no warranty, even when we offered to truck bomb his home - my, how
> >standards have slipped in recent years!
> >What we want you nice Amwericans to do is, perhaps, kick off a
> >discussion on the guidance systems in these things, along the lines of
> >1. Types of sensors used in different generations
> >2. How they work, ie is there a sensor cooling system we need to check
> >3. A source of surplus American sensor heads we can buy- might be
> >easier that fixing the ones we have.
> >3. A URL of an American defense contractors website with a brief
> >explanation of how they are supposed to work.
> >And we cant build one of these things from scratch, so we dont need
> >the real classified drawings and circuits, but we do have a couple of
> >real good techs who have a few of them apart on the bench right now
> >and just need a bit of guidance (HA HA is Arabic joke - good, eh?) on
> >how to get them up and running.
> >Thanking you
> >Silly name at Anonymous Yahoo address on Xmas eve - on the theory that
> >the authorities will be asleep at the wheel.
> >And before any of you nice Americans go off your brains, please look
> >up "irony" in the dictionary.
> OK, but you have to look up 'humor'. Fair's fair.
And point taken John, but you must make allowances for cross cultural
differences! There have already been terrible puns on "Fe" and "Pb" -
the latter is probably more appropriate given some of the replies!
But I did mean this seriously, while a previous poster has pointed out
that all the information given to the original missile guidance
question that prompted my missive is already available from other
sources - it has now all been sorted and posted by people who have a
working knowledge of this subject- saves heaps of time!
And think about the people who planned and executed the Sept 11
attacks- hardy a bunch of illiterate medieval(sp) peasants. Dont
underestimate 3rd world techs - some of them are brilliant due to
haveing to scrounge/modify/adapt/recycle to keep things going - no
Radio Shack or HP service facility in Afghanistan.
And how many of these missiles are floating around anyway - since the
collapse of the Soviet Union, people are desperate to get enough to
eat, so the temptation to sell a few missiles to keep your family
alive would be enormous. From an address given on this group, 85,000
"Redeye missiles were made - are they ALL accounted for? And are all
the "Stingers" given to the Mujahadeen by the CIA to fight the
Russians accounted for? - I think not.
Once upon a time the Western world had the skills to fix almost
anything - think back to the Radio Amateurs of old and what they did
with WW2 surplus - and people like that are still out there, the sort
of person who will fix a $5 radio because they are curious/pig headed
But this subject is a bit more serious, and I would in all seriousness
ask people to think about the implications of these sort of queries -
it seems a bit strange that some college somewhere would set this as a
And yes, I probably am paranoid, and would be most greatfull if
someone could show me I am a total nutter on this subject.
Think about this next time you get on a plane and its doing its slow,
lumbering takeoff run.........
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