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Subject: Re: HELP - My missile wont work!
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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 02:51:54 GMT
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Organization: AT&T Worldnet
Are you Australian or US guy in Australia ?
Either way, your suggestion that some guy in Afghanistan (which does not
have an Army, Navy or Air Force) might build a missile out of information
gleaned from this newsgroup is a wee little bit wacko.
If you need to find dangerous weirdos who fly planes, plan federal bombing,
school shootings and bombings, most gruesome murders and rapes, etc. etc.
you do not need to go all the way to Afghanistan or other parts of Asia. Its
Its nice to live in a blissful state of blaming somebody else (and of course
killing them after that).
Fun, isn't it ?
"Andrew VK3BFA" wrote in message
> John Larkin wrote in
> > On 28 Dec 2002 01:08:43 -0800, firstname.lastname@example.org (Andrew
> > VK3BFA) wrote:
> > >Hello Nice People,
> > >recently a myself and a bunch of Freedom Fighter friends bought a
> > >whole batch of surplus Russian surafe to air missiles - we were very
> > >dissapointed to find that when we fired two of them at an Israeli
> > >airliner, they missed!. The things took off ok, and went "Bang" at the
> > >end of there flight, but, golly gosh, the guidance systems didnt work
> > >and they missed.
> > >
> > >We contacted the vendor, and he said since they were surplus there was
> > >no warranty, even when we offered to truck bomb his home - my, how
> > >standards have slipped in recent years!
> > >
> > >What we want you nice Amwericans to do is, perhaps, kick off a
> > >discussion on the guidance systems in these things, along the lines of
> > >
> > >1. Types of sensors used in different generations
> > >2. How they work, ie is there a sensor cooling system we need to check
> > >3. A source of surplus American sensor heads we can buy- might be
> > >easier that fixing the ones we have.
> > >3. A URL of an American defense contractors website with a brief
> > >explanation of how they are supposed to work.
> > >
> > >And we cant build one of these things from scratch, so we dont need
> > >the real classified drawings and circuits, but we do have a couple of
> > >real good techs who have a few of them apart on the bench right now
> > >and just need a bit of guidance (HA HA is Arabic joke - good, eh?) on
> > >how to get them up and running.
> > >
> > >Thanking you
> > >
> > >Silly name at Anonymous Yahoo address on Xmas eve - on the theory that
> > >the authorities will be asleep at the wheel.
> > >
> > >And before any of you nice Americans go off your brains, please look
> > >up "irony" in the dictionary.
> > OK, but you have to look up 'humor'. Fair's fair.
> > John
> And point taken John, but you must make allowances for cross cultural
> differences! There have already been terrible puns on "Fe" and "Pb" -
> the latter is probably more appropriate given some of the replies!
> But I did mean this seriously, while a previous poster has pointed out
> that all the information given to the original missile guidance
> question that prompted my missive is already available from other
> sources - it has now all been sorted and posted by people who have a
> working knowledge of this subject- saves heaps of time!
> And think about the people who planned and executed the Sept 11
> attacks- hardy a bunch of illiterate medieval(sp) peasants. Dont
> underestimate 3rd world techs - some of them are brilliant due to
> haveing to scrounge/modify/adapt/recycle to keep things going - no
> Radio Shack or HP service facility in Afghanistan.
> And how many of these missiles are floating around anyway - since the
> collapse of the Soviet Union, people are desperate to get enough to
> eat, so the temptation to sell a few missiles to keep your family
> alive would be enormous. From an address given on this group, 85,000
> "Redeye missiles were made - are they ALL accounted for? And are all
> the "Stingers" given to the Mujahadeen by the CIA to fight the
> Russians accounted for? - I think not.
> Once upon a time the Western world had the skills to fix almost
> anything - think back to the Radio Amateurs of old and what they did
> with WW2 surplus - and people like that are still out there, the sort
> of person who will fix a $5 radio because they are curious/pig headed
> about it.
> But this subject is a bit more serious, and I would in all seriousness
> ask people to think about the implications of these sort of queries -
> it seems a bit strange that some college somewhere would set this as a
> project question.
> And yes, I probably am paranoid, and would be most greatfull if
> someone could show me I am a total nutter on this subject.
> Think about this next time you get on a plane and its doing its slow,
> lumbering takeoff run.........
> Andrew VK3BFA