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From: "Ed Price"
References: <email@example.com> <firstname.lastname@example.org> <email@example.com>
Subject: Re: HELP - My missile wont work!
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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 05:25:41 GMT
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Organization: Cox Communications
"Andrew VK3BFA" wrote in message
> John Larkin wrote in
> > On 28 Dec 2002 01:08:43 -0800, firstname.lastname@example.org (Andrew
> > VK3BFA) wrote:
> > >Hello Nice People,
> > >recently a myself and a bunch of Freedom Fighter friends bought a
> > >whole batch of surplus Russian surafe to air missiles - we were very
> > >dissapointed to find that when we fired two of them at an Israeli
> > >airliner, they missed!. The things took off ok, and went "Bang" at the
> > >end of there flight, but, golly gosh, the guidance systems didnt work
> > >and they missed.
> > >
> > >We contacted the vendor, and he said since they were surplus there was
> > >no warranty, even when we offered to truck bomb his home - my, how
> > >standards have slipped in recent years!
> > >
> > >What we want you nice Amwericans to do is, perhaps, kick off a
> > >discussion on the guidance systems in these things, along the lines of
> > >
> > >1. Types of sensors used in different generations
> > >2. How they work, ie is there a sensor cooling system we need to check
> > >3. A source of surplus American sensor heads we can buy- might be
> > >easier that fixing the ones we have.
> > >3. A URL of an American defense contractors website with a brief
> > >explanation of how they are supposed to work.
> > >
> > >And we cant build one of these things from scratch, so we dont need
> > >the real classified drawings and circuits, but we do have a couple of
> > >real good techs who have a few of them apart on the bench right now
> > >and just need a bit of guidance (HA HA is Arabic joke - good, eh?) on
> > >how to get them up and running.
> > >
> > >Thanking you
> > >
> > >Silly name at Anonymous Yahoo address on Xmas eve - on the theory that
> > >the authorities will be asleep at the wheel.
> > >
> > >And before any of you nice Americans go off your brains, please look
> > >up "irony" in the dictionary.
> > OK, but you have to look up 'humor'. Fair's fair.
> > John
> And point taken John, but you must make allowances for cross cultural
> differences! There have already been terrible puns on "Fe" and "Pb" -
> the latter is probably more appropriate given some of the replies!
> But I did mean this seriously, while a previous poster has pointed out
> that all the information given to the original missile guidance
> question that prompted my missive is already available from other
> sources - it has now all been sorted and posted by people who have a
> working knowledge of this subject- saves heaps of time!
> And think about the people who planned and executed the Sept 11
> attacks- hardy a bunch of illiterate medieval(sp) peasants. Dont
> underestimate 3rd world techs - some of them are brilliant due to
> haveing to scrounge/modify/adapt/recycle to keep things going - no
> Radio Shack or HP service facility in Afghanistan.
> And how many of these missiles are floating around anyway - since the
> collapse of the Soviet Union, people are desperate to get enough to
> eat, so the temptation to sell a few missiles to keep your family
> alive would be enormous. From an address given on this group, 85,000
> "Redeye missiles were made - are they ALL accounted for? And are all
> the "Stingers" given to the Mujahadeen by the CIA to fight the
> Russians accounted for? - I think not.
> Once upon a time the Western world had the skills to fix almost
> anything - think back to the Radio Amateurs of old and what they did
> with WW2 surplus - and people like that are still out there, the sort
> of person who will fix a $5 radio because they are curious/pig headed
> about it.
> But this subject is a bit more serious, and I would in all seriousness
> ask people to think about the implications of these sort of queries -
> it seems a bit strange that some college somewhere would set this as a
> project question.
> And yes, I probably am paranoid, and would be most greatfull if
> someone could show me I am a total nutter on this subject.
> Think about this next time you get on a plane and its doing its slow,
> lumbering takeoff run.........
> Andrew VK3BFA
Afghanistan might be a bit short on electronics parts now, but potential
builders of weapons what need some high-tech assistance need only hop on
over to Faisalabad, and check out:
Alkuwait Electronic. Bhowana Bazar. Tel: 643591
Babar Electronic. Bhowana Bazar. Tel: 6456000
Punjab Electronic. Circular Road. Tel: 619942
Japan Electronic Gole Ghee. Tel: 614507
Cheep Electronic. Bhowana Bazar. Tel: 646691
Rehman Radio Services. Bhowana Bazar. Tel: 628047
Sunny Electronic Satyna Road. Tel: 45379
Zafer Electronic. Gol Bhowana Bazar. Tel: 601426
Farooq Electronic Peoples colony. Tel: 45536
Latif Electronic. Tariq Abad. Tel: 643429
Mirza Electronic. Katchery Bazar. Tel: 647153
Nasir Electronic. Jinnah Colony. Tel: 643727
Niaz Radio Katchery Bazar. Tel: 718179
Universal Radio. Katchery Bazar. Tel: 636441
Sagheer Electronic. Saman Abad. Tel: 660560
Ghuffar Radio. Dhudi Wala. Tel: 715005
Green Electronic Jhang Road. Tel: 653222
Don't be so smug to think you need a Radio Shack.
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