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Subject: Re: HELP - My missile wont work!
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Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 08:24:52 GMT
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You are talking about an ally in the war against terrorism (sarcasm
Besides, all the American troops are right at the door-steps of all these
What are they doing there ? Swatting flies ?
"Ed Price" wrote in message
> "Andrew VK3BFA" wrote in message
> > John Larkin wrote in
> message news:<email@example.com>...
> > > On 28 Dec 2002 01:08:43 -0800, firstname.lastname@example.org (Andrew
> > > VK3BFA) wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hello Nice People,
> > > >recently a myself and a bunch of Freedom Fighter friends bought a
> > > >whole batch of surplus Russian surafe to air missiles - we were very
> > > >dissapointed to find that when we fired two of them at an Israeli
> > > >airliner, they missed!. The things took off ok, and went "Bang" at
> > > >end of there flight, but, golly gosh, the guidance systems didnt work
> > > >and they missed.
> > > >
> > > >We contacted the vendor, and he said since they were surplus there
> > > >no warranty, even when we offered to truck bomb his home - my, how
> > > >standards have slipped in recent years!
> > > >
> > > >What we want you nice Amwericans to do is, perhaps, kick off a
> > > >discussion on the guidance systems in these things, along the lines
> > > >
> > > >1. Types of sensors used in different generations
> > > >2. How they work, ie is there a sensor cooling system we need to
> > > >3. A source of surplus American sensor heads we can buy- might be
> > > >easier that fixing the ones we have.
> > > >3. A URL of an American defense contractors website with a brief
> > > >explanation of how they are supposed to work.
> > > >
> > > >And we cant build one of these things from scratch, so we dont need
> > > >the real classified drawings and circuits, but we do have a couple of
> > > >real good techs who have a few of them apart on the bench right now
> > > >and just need a bit of guidance (HA HA is Arabic joke - good, eh?) on
> > > >how to get them up and running.
> > > >
> > > >Thanking you
> > > >
> > > >Silly name at Anonymous Yahoo address on Xmas eve - on the theory
> > > >the authorities will be asleep at the wheel.
> > > >
> > > >And before any of you nice Americans go off your brains, please look
> > > >up "irony" in the dictionary.
> > >
> > >
> > > OK, but you have to look up 'humor'. Fair's fair.
> > >
> > > John
> > And point taken John, but you must make allowances for cross cultural
> > differences! There have already been terrible puns on "Fe" and "Pb" -
> > the latter is probably more appropriate given some of the replies!
> > But I did mean this seriously, while a previous poster has pointed out
> > that all the information given to the original missile guidance
> > question that prompted my missive is already available from other
> > sources - it has now all been sorted and posted by people who have a
> > working knowledge of this subject- saves heaps of time!
> > And think about the people who planned and executed the Sept 11
> > attacks- hardy a bunch of illiterate medieval(sp) peasants. Dont
> > underestimate 3rd world techs - some of them are brilliant due to
> > haveing to scrounge/modify/adapt/recycle to keep things going - no
> > Radio Shack or HP service facility in Afghanistan.
> > And how many of these missiles are floating around anyway - since the
> > collapse of the Soviet Union, people are desperate to get enough to
> > eat, so the temptation to sell a few missiles to keep your family
> > alive would be enormous. From an address given on this group, 85,000
> > "Redeye missiles were made - are they ALL accounted for? And are all
> > the "Stingers" given to the Mujahadeen by the CIA to fight the
> > Russians accounted for? - I think not.
> > Once upon a time the Western world had the skills to fix almost
> > anything - think back to the Radio Amateurs of old and what they did
> > with WW2 surplus - and people like that are still out there, the sort
> > of person who will fix a $5 radio because they are curious/pig headed
> > about it.
> > But this subject is a bit more serious, and I would in all seriousness
> > ask people to think about the implications of these sort of queries -
> > it seems a bit strange that some college somewhere would set this as a
> > project question.
> > And yes, I probably am paranoid, and would be most greatfull if
> > someone could show me I am a total nutter on this subject.
> > Think about this next time you get on a plane and its doing its slow,
> > lumbering takeoff run.........
> > Regards,
> > Andrew VK3BFA
> Afghanistan might be a bit short on electronics parts now, but potential
> builders of weapons what need some high-tech assistance need only hop on
> over to Faisalabad, and check out:
> Alkuwait Electronic. Bhowana Bazar. Tel: 643591
> Babar Electronic. Bhowana Bazar. Tel: 6456000
> Punjab Electronic. Circular Road. Tel: 619942
> Japan Electronic Gole Ghee. Tel: 614507
> Cheep Electronic. Bhowana Bazar. Tel: 646691
> Rehman Radio Services. Bhowana Bazar. Tel: 628047
> Sunny Electronic Satyna Road. Tel: 45379
> Zafer Electronic. Gol Bhowana Bazar. Tel: 601426
> Farooq Electronic Peoples colony. Tel: 45536
> Latif Electronic. Tariq Abad. Tel: 643429
> Mirza Electronic. Katchery Bazar. Tel: 647153
> Nasir Electronic. Jinnah Colony. Tel: 643727
> Niaz Radio Katchery Bazar. Tel: 718179
> Universal Radio. Katchery Bazar. Tel: 636441
> Sagheer Electronic. Saman Abad. Tel: 660560
> Ghuffar Radio. Dhudi Wala. Tel: 715005
> Green Electronic Jhang Road. Tel: 653222
> Don't be so smug to think you need a Radio Shack.
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