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From: Jim Yanik
Subject: Re: HELP - My missile wont work!
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 17:59:01 +0000 (UTC)
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Fred Bloggs wrote in
> Phil Allison wrote:
>> "Fred Bloggs" wrote in message
>>>John Woodgate wrote:
>>>>I read in sci.electronics.design that Fred Bloggs
>>>> wrote (in <3E0F0F07.firstname.lastname@example.org>) about
>>>>'HELP - My missile wont work!', on Sun, 29 Dec 2002:
>>>>>the airliner received fighter escort on the return flight to
>>>>These fighters were in the nature of sacrificial electrodes? In that
>>>>they had exhausts hot enough to attract any further missiles that
>>>>might be launched?
>>>I am sure the Israelis know what they are doing. Their "top guns" are
>>>some of the best in the world. I would not consider it improbable
>>>that they have practiced decoying a missile with a state-of-the-art
>>>fighter and then losing it- maybe by pointing it into the sun.
>> ** Small heat seeking missiles are only effective against low
>> flying aircraft
Low being up to ~10,000 ft.
- so an airliner just after take off is a possible target.
>> That airliner will be at low speed ( circa 250 knots) and so therfore
>> will any escort fighters - if they want to act as decoys. They would
>> also have to be very close to the airliner - dangerously close in
>> order to fool the missile and draw it away.
>> The small missile is much faster than 250 knots - near
>> supersonic I
>> believe - so the fighter would be unable to outrun it or evade it
>> under those circumstances.
>> I suspect any escort fighters provided are mostly of
>> benefit the the passengers on board the airliner.
> At very close range like that, the missile is essentially ballistic
> since it is most likely incapable of the high-g maneuver that would be
> required to correct for aiming error. The fighters would not be able
> to react in that time frame- they could sweep the immediate ground
> area prior to takeoff and clear it of any suspicious intruders- and/or
> make them very nervous about a quick annihilation once spotted- this
> will make their aim worse-)
The fighters are for missile launch detection and
decoy/countermeasures,like flares,IR spoofing.
Jim Yanik,NRA member
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