NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 01:45:49 -0600
From: "Big John"
Subject: Re: Breathalyzer Ignition Interlocks - Big Brother at his best!
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 02:44:37 -0500
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I'm very worried about where this is going. I'm not for drunk driving
either, but using technology to control people scares the hell out of me.
I'm an American and believe me I am not at all fooled by the "Cold War",
"War on Drugs", or "War on Terrorism" brainwashing provided by the
government and mass media.
The USA, Canada, or GB it really doesn't seem to matter. The push is on
for national ID cards, real time Internet monitoring, GPS chips in cell
phones that monitor a user's location. Some convicted felons here in the US
have to wear tracking devices as part of their parole, there are now cameras
all over the major cities and along many major highways and crossings like
bridges and tunnels. There is also "Red Light Camera" in many major US
cities. As I understand it, newer cars have a chip in them that the
computer writes data (like speed and throttle position) into when an
accident occurs that large enough to trigger the air bag.
The problem is, unlike most of us who frequent this group, the average
citizen doesn't understand this technology or what it means to their civil
rights or privacy. You don't see much about this on the mainstream news
either. What's next? Tracking devices installed in the tooth - every
citizen needs one. GPS monitoring of the position and speed of your car.
Go into a bad neighborhood and you get an insurance surcharge, drive over
the speed limit and get an automatic ticket mailed to your home, roll past a
stop sign and another ticket arrives.
So, YES, I am worried about science and technology being used to control /
tax / enslave the public. I am worried about stupid laws that have the
potential to turn regular people into criminals all in the name of safety
and security. And I'm very worried about the future, because the only light
I can see at the end of the tunnel is probably a train coming.
For all those who say we are paranoid and/or alarmists - what were the
German people thinking about Hitler and the Nazis on the eve of WWII?
Gerry Schneider wrote in message <3E16A0FA.F0D9DFBE@sympatico.ca>...
>Just a few tidbits from Canada's "solution" (asterisks are
>Anyone convicted in Ontario of a drinking and driving
>offence committed on or after December 23, 2001, *must*
>install a breathalyzer ignition lock in their vehicle once
>their driving privileges are restored.
>Persons convicted of a first offence will have to use the
>device, called an ignition interlock, for at *least* one
>If it detects an impermissible level of alcohol (over *20*
>mgs of alcohol in 100 ml of blood), the car will not start.
>The Registrar of Motor Vehicles will consider the *data*
>stored by the device in deciding whether the person applying
>for its removal can be trusted to drive sober without it.
>The system requires breath samples at random intervals while
>the engine is running. Drivers have about three minutes to
>provide a breath sample, allowing them time to pull over *if
>There you go - a (flawed!) device whose "data" (including
>false positives) is used to judge you without recourse to a
>fair hearing, which *requires* you to either blow into a
>tube while driving (ridiculous!) or pull over before the
>horn and lights go off (dangerous!), and which is set to
>absurdly low levels (watch out for mouthwash and
>liqueur-filled chocolates!). And when does the punishment
>end? When they say so! OK, sure, the guy may have deserved
>to get nailed for drunk driving, but doesn't anybody besides
>me (and Fred) worry about where this is going? Or have you
>Americans been so brainwashed by the War on Drugs, War on
>Terrorism etc. that you don't care anymore?