From: "Bill Sloman"
Subject: Re: Defeating Breathalyzer Ignition Interlocks
Date: Sat, 4 Jan 2003 15:48:58 +0100
Organization: Planet Internet
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"Frank Bemelman" wrote in message
> "NoBodyInParticular" schreef in bericht
> > Kentucky did something similar, drive drunk and kill
> > someone in an accident you face a murder charge. On a side
> > note, I always hear reps from MADD talking about 20,000+
> > people killed in "alcohol related accidents". What the hell
> > is an "alcohol related accident"? If we have 20,000+ being
> > killed by drunk drivers, then say so!
> I guess you can also fall of the stairs, when drunk, causing
> an "alcohol related accident".
> BTW, most are killed by sober drivers.
Are you sure? In the state of Victoria in Australia in the 1960's, the
police surgeon John Birrell, put together the statistics on the blood
alcohol levels of road accident victims as measured at autopsy, and found
that something like a third of the victims had levels that would leave a
social drinker incapable of walking, let alone driving. Heavy drinkers
(alcoholics) can function ostensibly normally at these sorts of blood
alcohols levels, and are heavily over-represented amongst road accident
Birrell is an interesting man - see page 9 of this document
He wasn't allowed to publish his results for some reason, but was allowed to
give private lectures to groups and associations. I heard him tell his tale
to a large group of Melbourne University students - some 500 - while I was a
student. He gave a lot of these lectures and had quite an effect on public
He (with his brother) was also a pioneer in publicising the problem of
child-bashing, and the clinical signs of persistent child abuse.
IIRR he also carried out an - at the time wholly illegal - abortion on a
girl who had been made pregnant while being raped, which produced a lot of
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen