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From: Fred Bloggs
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Subject: Re: Defeating Breathalyzer Ignition Interlocks
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Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 19:08:50 GMT
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Spehro Pefhany wrote:
> On Sat, 04 Jan 2003 04:13:50 GMT, the renowned Fred Bloggs
>>I am not sure about the particular sensor but you should be able to
>>defeat it with a blast of air from a plastic bulb, like a baking syringe
>>or a certain other kind of unmentionable you might find in a drugstore.
> You mean something like this?
> If they work like the police breathalyzer I "tested" a couple of
> years ago the required volume of air is MUCH greater than a regular
> syringe carries. I passed easily, BTW.
Right- there are "deep lung" air samplers and the preliminary types. The
preliminary types can be defeated with a bulb- the deep lung samplers
will require a small pump.
>>And this is nowhere at the loftiness of a "crusade." It is a common
>>criminal rip-off from top to bottom. The NHTSA's own statistics show no
>>statistically significant increase of probability of accident for BAC's
>>less than 0.12, and the states with threshold at 0.08 show no
>>significant decrease of traffic accidents, so that the newest
>>legislation mandating 0.08 nationwide is hopelessly unscientific and
> It does seem pretty punitive. Here's Ontario's rules:
> Note that a *first* offence (over 0.08) leads to a 1-year mandatory
> licence suspension (and education programs, which the offender must
> pay for) followed by a 1-year interlock (user pay) requirement.
> I imagine that might be a bit of a problem when the user tries
> to rent a car, not to mention the crimnal record and insurance
> increases. Those three or four beers could turn out to be
> VERY expensive. So, like, don't do it, eh?
Three or four beers over even a one hour period should not put you near
any reasonable limit. Also, even though the offense has been elevated to
the level of misdemeanor, it is still in the category of traffic offense
which is traditionally classified as a public disorder. The second
offense WILL be upgraded to a low end felony in some jurisdictions, and,
depending on the BAC, could result in PRISON time versus just jail time.
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