From: "Da Man"
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Subject: Re: Defeating Breathalyzer Ignition Interlocks
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Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 00:43:39 GMT
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"John Woodgate" wrote in message
> I read in sci.electronics.design that NoBodyInParticular
> wrote (in <3E161FF0.email@example.com>) about
> 'Defeating Breathalyzer Ignition Interlocks', on Fri, 3 Jan 2003:
> > On a side
> >note, I always hear reps from MADD talking about 20,000+
> >people killed in "alcohol related accidents". What the hell
> >is an "alcohol related accident"? If we have 20,000+ being
> >killed by drunk drivers, then say so!
> It's called 'weasel wording', and the police and road safety people do
> it in UK as well. If a drunken pedestrian falls in front of your car,
> that's an 'alcohol-related accident'.
> It's the same with 'accidents in which speed was a factor'. This applies
> to ALL accidents - stationary vehicles don't collide with each other or
> with stationary people. But the *implication* is 'speed in excess of the
> speed limit'.
That one really pisses me off too. The Fat lazy cops would rather hide
behind a speed trap, and catch completely safe drivers doing 10 km/h over
the limit on the highway, then to put any effort in all the car break and
enters, vandlism, crack heads, theft, etc, etc, etc. They keep saying that
they are "under staffed". Have something broken into around here and you
will get a responce of "we will investigate it, but we probably won't find
out who did it", and that's exactly what happens - they look at it it for a
bit, look important, and that's the last you ever hear about it. Here in
Canada, speeding tickets alone are a $50 million income, now add the
economics to that that the insurance / scam companys do to your premiuims
and you can clearly see why the goverment insures lot's of speeding tickes
are written by overstaffing the roads with radar guns, and reducing the
maximum speeds at least 20 km/h less then what most motorists (85th
percentile) would find comfortable to drive at (BTW, 4/5 of moving
violations are speeding tickets). Only about 6% of the accidents here are
actually caused from speeding.
The zero tolerance DUI thing is most likely another tax grab - in some way
you can be sure it will benifit the goverment. Huge fines, public relations,
legal expenses, insurance expenses, one less car on the road to cause
traffic, more sales and analysis of monitoring equipment (such as the
interlocks), a reason to monitor people, etc, etc. Having a drink with your
supper, and driving home is totally differnt then getting so hammered that
you can't walk and then driving home (or into what ever) are two totally
The gun laws here in Canada are pretty dumb now too. I don't nor plan on
owning a gun, but even I have to admit those rules are just a little insane,
and a nice huge tax grab.
> Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
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